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Next step out of the Sandbox from ex Erotica1 minions.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2015-06-14 11:10:22 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Stacy Lone wrote:
I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl),


How do you feel about actors playing a role?

they get paid for it

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Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#82 - 2015-06-14 11:31:56 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
they get paid for it


So did these dudes.

The Article wrote:
... Our group, Space Neocons, was approached by a client one fine day from the incursion running community. This individual, motives known only to him, had a particular grudge against Elias.


Then at the end....

The Article wrote:
... Once results were delivered the client was of course thrilled with our success and completed his healthy service fee.


GJ on the scam Big smile
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#83 - 2015-06-14 11:32:16 UTC
lost packet wrote:
If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P).

I seem to remember some discussion on this before but can't find it, so I might be making his up and thinking it's something I recall.

In any case, my recollection was that if someone buys PLEX, sells it for ISK and is then scammed out of the ISK, bad luck. Fools and their ISK are soon parted.

However if he was being scammed and had to buy PLEX to cover ISK as part of the scam, then the scammer has stepped across a line. So if the guy said "I don't have that ISK, I'll have to buy a PLEX to raise it" and the scammer says "Ok", then it would be reimbursed and the scammer banned.

But I can't find where it was discussed, so it could be a totally fictitious memory.
Big Lynx
#84 - 2015-06-14 11:42:11 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
lost packet wrote:
If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P).

I seem to remember some discussion on this before but can't find it, so I might be making his up and thinking it's something I recall.

However if he was being scammed and had to buy PLEX to cover ISK as part of the scam, then the scammer has stepped across a line. So if the guy said "I don't have that ISK, I'll have to buy a PLEX to raise it" and the scammer says "Ok", then it would be reimbursed and the scammer banned.

But I can't find where it was discussed, so it could be a totally fictitious memory.


That was one of my initial thoughts.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#85 - 2015-06-14 11:56:34 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

In any case, my recollection was that if someone buys PLEX, sells it for ISK and is then scammed out of the ISK, bad luck. Fools and their ISK are soon parted.


Entirely correct. Unless coached to buy the plex by the scammer. The rules for plex are pretty simple. In the vast majority of cases, once you buy the plex, your money is gone, and the transaction entitles you to an ingame item, which you then receive to do with as you please, for good or ill.

Let the buyer beware.

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GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#86 - 2015-06-14 12:11:24 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Stacy Lone wrote:
(I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl)



The typical EVE player is a 30 year old male of above average intellect working in the engineering or IT fields; possibly the most benign, harmless, bourgeois specimen any human society has ever produced. I'd say the chance of them ever acting like they do in EVE is...minute...boundaries or not.


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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2015-06-14 12:32:44 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
lost packet wrote:
If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P).

I seem to remember some discussion on this before but can't find it, so I might be making his up and thinking it's something I recall.

In any case, my recollection was that if someone buys PLEX, sells it for ISK and is then scammed out of the ISK, bad luck. Fools and their ISK are soon parted.

However if he was being scammed and had to buy PLEX to cover ISK as part of the scam, then the scammer has stepped across a line. So if the guy said "I don't have that ISK, I'll have to buy a PLEX to raise it" and the scammer says "Ok", then it would be reimbursed and the scammer banned.

But I can't find where it was discussed, so it could be a totally fictitious memory.



WRONG!

If dude says "dont have isk need to buy plex to raise it" then scammer says "ok"

LEGAL LEGIT

If dude says "dont have isk" then scammer says "you should get your credit card and buy some plex"

Illegal Not-legit.


See the difference? ?


If its the idiots own idea then its his own idiotic idea.
You just cant CONVINCE the idiot to spend his childrens lunch money and wifes gas allotment on plex... if he thinks of doing that and thinks its a good idea on his own....
LEGAL (also dude is a total loser and will prob lose his family soon as well as his isk and RL assets)
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#88 - 2015-06-14 12:39:08 UTC
Eve, the deadliest game.

@lunettelulu7
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#89 - 2015-06-14 13:03:49 UTC
so I'm just into the first soundcloud, I have to say, the people executing this scam are really dangerous, on the other hand I think its good that they post it, to assure honest people see what can happen if you just think everybody is honest as well... some education is missing here in western civilication, erotica 1 and his friends are teaching me a good lesson here, something I was not teached that way by others...they sure do something bad here however by showing it they somehow prevent it to happen to many more victims... maybe one got scammed but by listening to this, maybe 10 or 100 will not get scammed

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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#90 - 2015-06-14 13:52:12 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Stacy Lone wrote:
I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl),


How do you feel about actors playing a role?

they get paid for it


And how is that relevant?
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#91 - 2015-06-14 13:54:15 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:

(also dude is a total loser and will prob lose his family soon as well as his isk and RL assets)


There really isn't a single sane cell in your brain, is there?
Martin Corwin
Doomheim
#92 - 2015-06-14 14:15:59 UTC
Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2015-06-14 14:40:18 UTC
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:

(also dude is a total loser and will prob lose his family soon as well as his isk and RL assets)


There really isn't a single sane cell in your brain, is there?

I said that if he chose to use his childrens lunch money and wifes gas allotment to buy plex.

Read the sentence befote dude.

If he does those, then i think he would be a loser and lose them.


You dont??
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2015-06-14 14:43:26 UTC
Martin Corwin wrote:
Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP.

Thats not against the EULA though though. ...

Brb im posting what you just said on reddit for all to read and mock
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#95 - 2015-06-14 14:51:13 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:




How can a dude play for YEARS amass over 100BILL and still still STILL not understand this is legal/allowed?


EVE is a game played by humans, humans are oddly susceptible to scams.
Quote:
FINRA's fraud susceptibility research reveals some surprising facts. For example, the more educated and wealthier you are, the more likely you are to invest in a potentially fraudulent scheme. And men, because they are generally less risk averse, are more vulnerable than women.




Any investor can tell you that 33% success rate on investments is a good ratio.

Most fail.
Martin Corwin
Doomheim
#96 - 2015-06-14 14:57:42 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Martin Corwin wrote:
Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP.

Thats not against the EULA though though. ...

Brb im posting what you just said on reddit for all to read and mock

Personality rights, esp. privacy rights, are a thing. Some civilized countries actually have laws that implement these rights.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#97 - 2015-06-14 15:57:16 UTC
My one and only issue is the posting of the audio recording. thats jsut poor taste. It's one thing to scam and get the isk and post the typed in game tears but the recording of the audio on teamspeak and posting it as a ridicule of this 'person' and not simply the player takes it too out of game for 'My' tastes. +1 on the Scam -1 on the presentation

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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#98 - 2015-06-14 18:24:03 UTC
Wow, that's a pretty awesome scam!
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#99 - 2015-06-14 19:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
So what?
Hadn't much compassion with the victim but that?
Hilarious!!
Boasting like little children about this lame job and putting evidence online...

What and what not violates the EULA is a thing that CCP decides!

You seriously hope for an uproar?
loool
Lol

So enough please, if you still need to whine, please do it in C&P where this clickbait belongs to anyway.

Funny when people fish for other ppls tears and then have to cry themselfes.

Edit:
Consider the amount of isk in PLEX in Dollars and that not a corps but a single person has been hit.
Some Promo CCP does not want.
Anyway: Everything "evil" some people do reflect on EvE and CCP and there is the line where tolerance ends.

PPS:
LOL
following erotica1 s footsteps indeed, following them out of EvE...

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#100 - 2015-06-14 19:49:17 UTC
lost packet wrote:
If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P).
As others have said it depends on the situation. If a scammer encourages the victim to buy PLEX then that's a nono as far as I know; anything other than that is fair game because a PLEX has no monetary worth after it's been redeemed and becomes a game item to which the normal scam rules apply.

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