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Next step out of the Sandbox from ex Erotica1 minions.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-06-12 19:02:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Gully Alex Foyle
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
La Rynx wrote:
No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now.
Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now.

Are you Elias? Same naivety.



This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible.

Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful (and prosperous) with each passing day.
Aye and that's a damn good thing.

But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#42 - 2015-06-12 19:07:39 UTC
Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-06-12 19:10:18 UTC
exactly!

if most people would be horrible civilisation would not have reached the standards of the antiques, nor the middle ages.
cooperaition of many do catch up the effects of those horrible ppl.

our times might still lack, however consider things live the live expectancy today against earlier times.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-06-12 19:11:33 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
La Rynx wrote:
No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now.
Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now.

Are you Elias? Same naivety.



This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible.

Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful (and prosperous) with each passing day.
Aye and that's a damn good thing.

But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club.


i am not talking of nice, i am talking of cooperation to maximize your own benefits.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Jaclyn Hayes
WTF IS THIS CORP
#45 - 2015-06-12 19:12:29 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?



New generation.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2015-06-12 19:16:56 UTC
This clickbait is worse than buzzfeed
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-06-12 19:25:39 UTC
La Rynx wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
La Rynx wrote:
No, if most humans would be horrible, civilisation would not be where it is now.
Yes, civilisation is in an awesome place now.

Are you Elias? Same naivety.



This is why I talk about false perception. One of the things that fuels false perceptions is lack of context. People that exist now didn't exist in the past when things were really bad, so they believe that what's going on now is terrible.

Truth is this is the most peaceful time in all of human history, and it's getting even more peaceful (and prosperous) with each passing day.
Aye and that's a damn good thing.

But I don't think it's becuase we're nicer dudes. It's just that nowadays the strong can convince the weak to work for them much more efficiently, using TV ads instead of beating them senseless with a club.


i am not talking of nice, i am talking of cooperation to maximize your own benefits.
Meh, these dudes seemed promising, but probably because they were cheating.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Marsha Mallow
#48 - 2015-06-12 19:30:02 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?

Tbf we are all violently persecuted by CCP. Some of us enjoy it more than others though.

Only listened to part of the second clip and I heard the guy going 'guys, I'm starting to feel like a mark here.' Down to his last 10b and he's just starting to get uneasy?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2015-06-12 20:18:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyborg Girl86
Stacy Lone wrote:
Big Lynx wrote:
http://evenews24.com/2015/06/12/submission-the-story-behind-a-succesfull-100bil-scam/

That story is as sad as the Bonus Room Harassement.

Read and listen.


While I despise what Erotica1 did and the whole bonus room thing, this doesn't even come close to it.

Do I feel sorry for the guy? I'm having trouble with that. Everyone knows that EVE is a harsh place full of scammers and such. The amount of naivity and stupidity shown by the victim is truly astonishing. He should've known better. You don#t give that kind of cash away to people you don't know and can't trust. You wouldn't do that IRL, so why does anyone think it is a good idea ingame? It against common sense.

So yeah, sorry, but this is his own fault.


Paranoia is your best friend in this game. I safeguard everything I own and every single ISK in as many ways as I can.

Case in point:
The very fact that people don't ignore 99.9% of the messages people put on local in a heavy-traffic market system is a sign that Darwinism is not working in their favor. Yet I still see people fall for these trade scams posted in local every second day.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#50 - 2015-06-12 20:20:56 UTC
Jaclyn Hayes wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths/rustlers/cut throats/murderers/bounty hunters/desperados/mugs/pugs/thugs/nitwits/halfwits/dimwits/vipers/snipers/con men/Indian agents/Mexican bandits/muggers/buggerers/bushwhackers/hornswogglers/horse thieves/bull *****/train robbers/bank robbers/ass-kickers/****-kickers and Methodists' ?



New generation.


As a reflection on the RL population. Very possibly so.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2015-06-12 20:20:59 UTC
That guy must have been drunk for like a month, how and at what point could anyone possibly think that any of this is a good idea?
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#52 - 2015-06-12 20:48:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Stacy Lone wrote:
(I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl)



The typical EVE player is a 30 year old male of above average intellect working in the engineering or IT fields; possibly the most benign, harmless, bourgeois specimen any human society has ever produced. I'd say the chance of them ever acting like they do in EVE is...minute...boundaries or not.
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2015-06-12 21:00:21 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
That guy must have been drunk for like a month, how and at what point could anyone possibly think that any of this is a good idea?


Its simple when spelled out...

He's a D-U-M-B-A-S-S Lol
OP is Hupocrite
Doomheim
#54 - 2015-06-12 23:25:20 UTC  |  Edited by: OP is Hupocrite
that is funny from someone who social engineers people out trillions of isk

how much did u pay for those emergency stratios you had scam from blink?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#55 - 2015-06-12 23:56:33 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I tried to feel something for the victims.
The best I could manage was aroused.
Am I okay?


In my professional opinion as an amateur internet psychologist, I'd say you're just fine.

i second my esteemed colleague, however i have noticed a distinct and alarming coherence to your post....a sobriety evenShocked



Ha! I must be getting better at faking it then, as I was very very tanked when that was written. Lol

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#56 - 2015-06-13 00:44:19 UTC
Again? Put this in the dead horse file.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#57 - 2015-06-13 02:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Unezka Turigahl
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Anyone else starting to think that the percentage of Eve players with 'victim compexes' is much much higher than the percentage of us 'sociopaths/psychopaths...



Yes, go take a look at the general feedback thread for the Carnyx release. Lots of whining, ultimatums being tossed around, lengthy diatribes posted every other page...
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#58 - 2015-06-13 03:31:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Brutus Utama wrote:
The guy was genuinely trying to help out the corp and you guys probably... ...made him unable to trust anyone in game again...

He learnt a valuable lesson then.

Don't trust someone you hardly know, with 100B ISK. Seems almost like common sense without the lesson even being needed.
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#59 - 2015-06-13 03:59:46 UTC
Stacy Lone wrote:
Brutus Utama wrote:
The guy was genuinely trying to help out the corp and you guys probably made him leave the game...or if not made him unable to trust anyone in game again... Pretty unfair


But that is the point, isn't it? You can not trust anyone in this game. And if you do, it bites you in the ass. That is more or less what I learned in the game from day one. If he hasn't learned it yet and still made 100B, kudos to him, but also shame on him, about time he learned that part about EVE.

It is common sense to be careful. He wasn't. It came back to him and bit him in the ass.

...
(Having that kind of cash on your main toon and not hidden on alts and giving away his API is another stupid mistake)


Ultimately trusting someone he didn't know IRL with that ISKl was entirely his error.

On the issue of having those assets on his main and submitting full APIs...
Well, I know I've seen posts in recent threads stating we should be willing to give full APIs (Trust us!) to corps we're applying to.

Clearly there is a major difference of opinion here amongst the forumites on that matter. Blink
vccv
#60 - 2015-06-13 04:37:27 UTC  |  Edited by: vccv
Where is the "out of the sandbox" part?

As unfortunate as it is for him, its still content. It was a 100b theft. Congrats, condolences, play on.

And honestly, there have been far larger heists in the past. If anything I feel this is all blown out of proportion because of the people involved and it being written up as a newsworthy article when I personally feel it borders on being just another average theft among so many others in progress as we speak. Where is the article and outrage over a certain 600bil heist not a few months back? Call me cold but I dont see what the big deal is here. Thanks for the link though, it was something to read other than the usual cap derps.