Player Features and Ideas Discussion

1. If you think there is only one reason for the change and that every other affect is "collateral damage", that might be why you don't understand or accept it.

2. FC's are not "forced" to do anything. They don't even have to log in. If FCing is too hard for them after this change, then maybe they were not officer material to begin with. Not everyone is cut out to be a leader. It sounds like a lot of the objection to this change is from people who just don't want to accept that cold, harsh reality.

3. PVE'ers, by definition, adapt to their environment. They overcome the challenges their environment imposes on them. If they can't do that, maybe they should go do something easier, like ganking noobs in Uitra.

4. Is it supposed to do something to bombers? Bomber pilots are supposed to be elite operators capable of complex, cooperative behavior. The harder EVE gets, the GREATER the advantage to such players.

5. This does nothing to small gangs. Small gang pilots tend to fall into one of two categories: noobs and elites. Or, in other words, people who are learning how to play the game and people who are good at playing the game. The former were already going to adapt, else how would they be able to play the game at all? The latter are already proven to be capable of adaptation. It's how they got good at the game.
Besides that, I've never been in a small gang that blind-fleet warped to a probe signature, not in high sec, not in low sec, not in null, and not in a wormhole. We ALWAYS sent in a scout.

Whether you think scouting is a glory-less or frustrating job depends on your playstyle. In the non-PVE fleets I've flown in, the scout(s) were usually the better players. Unfortunately, it takes a competent FC to understand their value and employ them effectively, and it takes a competent operator to scout effectively in a hostile environment. One or both of those are lacking in many fleets, but a scout is "the tip of the spear". That's a fun job for some people, for some playstyles.

6. In the wormhole operations I've been involved in, you manage your own bookmarks. Yes, sometimes you can grab/use a corp bookmark or a friend's bookmark, but generally, you didn't stand around twiddling your thumbs while others are doing the work of securing the hole, gathering intel, scanning down signatures, fighting for their lives, etc. And, this is not just so you don't get lost; it's also in case someone else (person_B) gets lost, the closest person or the person in a small ship (person_A) can be tasked to go back and provide a warp-in without one of his responsible, boomark-managing teammates (person_C) having to hold his hand and guide him to the wormhole that he couldn't be arsed to bookmark himself when he came through.
If having to wait an extra 20 seconds for your scout to say "GO!" makes it impossible for you to play in wormholes, you should GTFO of wormholes.

7. [Non-corp] group leaders can share bookmarks with eachother. Then, they can each share bookmarks with their groups. A lazy FC could also just not share bookmarks and just warp ahead of his fleet, who could then warp to him. Then, the person with the bookmarks would only have to share them with the FC . . . wait, I think that was redundant.

8. That is called a "problem". Some types of people are good at figuring out solutions to "problems". When those people are empowered to give other people "commands", they are generally referred to as "commander", not to be confused with the specific rank of Commander which is used in many militaries and other organizations with such hierarchical social structures. When a "commander" is empowered to give orders to a fleet and its members, he/she is called a "fleet commander", generally abbreviated as "FC" in EVE Online.

9. I am seeing a theme and it is this: You are not fleet command material. :-(