These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Warfare & Tactics

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
12Next page
 

Clone Soldiers
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-06-11 15:16:04 UTC
What are recommended fits for clone soldier hunt? They are all the same (regarding e-war) throughout the regions?

I guess, buffer tank, AB? (I think soldiers scram, correct?), web, 300+ DPS ... what do you use?

I'm my own NPC alt.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-06-11 16:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
i dont think i have ever been scrammed by one , they might though.

if you are after them for the isk then stick to .2 and .1 sec systems. imo .3and 4 aren't worth the risk if the locals are active at all.

im actually hunting them at the moment (not right now but you know what i mean) with a buffer stratios.

all t2 barring where meta 4 would be better

two drone damage amps
dcu
enam
1600mil plate

three t2 trimarks

two webs
scram
medium cap booster
10mn ab

two med electron blaster 2's (with the rest of the rack in the hold)

one small and medium neuts (with a full rack in the hold)

sisters core launcher .

i have an ancill and a t2 armour rep in the hold along with other bits and bobs

5-700 dps depending how many blasters you have on and something like 58,000ish ehp with high grade slaves (which i have)

its resists suck though so bear that in mind if you dont have links

Edit: obviously with a covops cloak

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Paranoid Loyd
#3 - 2015-06-11 20:57:09 UTC
Go here, type clone soldier in the search box to get an idea of their damage and HPs, they are progressively harder depending on system sec status. I would bring 500+ DPS to make sure you can kill them efficiently enough to not get caught by hunters. If you are fairly confident you are safe and not worried about getting caught 300+ DPS will work fine. I am fairly certain only the negotiators (.1) disrupt (not scram) as I don't recall not being able to use my MWD. Transporters (.2) web.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-06-11 21:23:11 UTC
Something mobile, tough, high DPS and expendable. A T1 cruiser will tank and kill them easily; a high DPS frigate like a blaster comet or an Enyo works also as long as you orbit close with an AB. Anything with 250+ DPS and a decent active tank works fine really.

Fed Navy Comet with neutron blasters and a nos in the highs, t2 repper, DCU II, EANM, and mag stab in the lows with an AB and web is probably the fit I'd use. Orbit at 500, none of them will hit you except for Guristas (missiles) and AB should mitigate that.

Frigate is definitely preferred because it is expendable and you can cover space quickly, you will need to hit a bunch of belts and systems to find enough of these rats to make it worthwhile.

If you've got money to burn I suspect a T3 dessie would be outstanding.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-06-11 21:25:03 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
What are recommended fits for clone soldier hunt? They are all the same (regarding e-war) throughout the regions?

I guess, buffer tank, AB? (I think soldiers scram, correct?), web, 300+ DPS ... what do you use?


Active tank is almost always best for PvE.
Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#6 - 2015-06-12 06:27:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Michael Ruckert
I'm in a 0.3 sec system. Killed several clone soldier recruiters in belts using an Atron at Mastery Level 3 without much problem. Takes a bit of time but not really that long. Key is to orbit in at 500m with an AB and just keep blasting away. Not much the clone soldier ship is going to do to a frigate at that range and speed.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Vapis Bikker
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-06-12 18:20:11 UTC
A worm works great. Never had an issue using one to rat and hunt clone soldiers with.
RonPaul Rox
Prime Directive.
United Caldari Space Command.
#8 - 2015-06-13 03:18:13 UTC
exequror navy issue is the ideal ship, but anything will work, they arent hard to kill

http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#9 - 2015-06-13 22:44:41 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Something mobile, tough, high DPS and expendable. A T1 cruiser will tank and kill them easily; a high DPS frigate like a blaster comet or an Enyo works also as long as you orbit close with an AB. Anything with 250+ DPS and a decent active tank works fine really.

Fed Navy Comet with neutron blasters and a nos in the highs, t2 repper, DCU II, EANM, and mag stab in the lows with an AB and web is probably the fit I'd use. Orbit at 500, none of them will hit you except for Guristas (missiles) and AB should mitigate that.

Frigate is definitely preferred because it is expendable and you can cover space quickly, you will need to hit a bunch of belts and systems to find enough of these rats to make it worthwhile.

If you've got money to burn I suspect a T3 dessie would be outstanding.


Pretty much what I use. Works like a charm.
Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#10 - 2015-06-14 06:13:22 UTC
I like dual rep Vexor. Proper PvP fit so you can actually fight people, 500+dps, enough tank to kill any Clone Soldier, or Mordus Frig/Cruiser with ease. You can even kill the Mordus Battleship with some difficulty, you will go through alot of cap boosters to kill one but it's possible.

A high dps Svipul would also work wonders. You can fit one up for quite cheap, the small sig means you'll take very little damage, and with 3 Gyros and 200autos you can hit 500dps easily on a Svipul. You could also throw on some hyperspatial rigs on there to cover the belts quicker. You also get the insta-warp mode swap trick so that you can easily get away from instalock camps.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-06-14 07:07:40 UTC
Svipul (lvl 4) is what I'm flying currently for solo roams most of the time (shield buffer, 3x Gyro, 200mm, MWD). Found a Guristas transporter yesterday and killed it .... but it required two attempts, first I orbited with MWD in defense mode and did my damage, but he webbed me and did his damage too Blink. I had to warp out with 20% shield, refitted to AB and tried again. This time the buffer was enough, however the damage done to me was almost the same and I don't think I would have killed him in the first run either with the fit. The shield tank has an MSE II and 3x T2 extender rigs (no DMC).

Maybe an additional invul and DMC would be enough or I have to think about an active tank (refit) option, suggestions?

I'm my own NPC alt.
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#12 - 2015-06-15 14:29:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Hadrian Blackstone
I prefer a fast MWD frigate with high damage application (blaster frigs).

The reason you want a MWD over an AB is because sometimes you will land 50 km away from one, and if you are closing in on them with an AB it will take longer and they'll shoot the crap out of you before you get there - their long range tracking skills are amazing, it almost doesn't matter what your transversal is.

Get in close, web, hit F1, and watch d-scan. Don't worry about not having an AB - if you are orbiting at 500m in a frig, they won't hit you anyway.

The lower sec you go the tougher they are, but the tags get more expensive. Negoiators will disrupt (not scram) you, transporters will web you, trainers and recruiters don't do either.

Source: Have killed hundreds of them on hunts over the year and a half I've been playing.
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-06-15 17:13:01 UTC
My preference is the Algos. With my skills (mix of IV and V), it delivers 511 dps, or 535 dps at max skill. The drones supply 60% of dps, and are applicable at all ranges. Once you've aggroed the clone, send your drones to attack while you burn towards the clone. Once under the clone's guns, turn off your AB and turn on your blasters. Turning off the AB will keep your orbit below 1000m and within optimum range.

You'll have enough tank to survive blasts from 30km as you burn towards the clone. If the clone is further than 30km, bookmark an asteroid nearest the clone, warp out and warp back to the bookmark. You should now be much closer to the clone.

This Algos fit is cheap, about 10m isk.

[Algos, low sec ratter - blaster]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
1MN Afterburner II
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I

Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x3
Hammerhead II x2
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-06-16 08:26:59 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
I like dual rep Vexor. Proper PvP fit so you can actually fight people, 500+dps, enough tank to kill any Clone Soldier, or Mordus Frig/Cruiser with ease. You can even kill the Mordus Battleship with some difficulty, you will go through alot of cap boosters to kill one but it's possible.

A high dps Svipul would also work wonders. You can fit one up for quite cheap, the small sig means you'll take very little damage, and with 3 Gyros and 200autos you can hit 500dps easily on a Svipul. You could also throw on some hyperspatial rigs on there to cover the belts quicker. You also get the insta-warp mode swap trick so that you can easily get away from instalock camps.



Damn. I've never encountered a Mordus battleship belt rat. Are they really that tough?

Comparable to a commander BS at a besieged site? Or stronger? Dual rep vexor with electrons and drones hits quite hard.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#15 - 2015-06-22 16:56:01 UTC
blowing up those in 0.1 with confessor easily
Armtoe
Arton Yachting and Angling Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#16 - 2015-06-23 16:57:38 UTC
I just use strat which has the advantage of being cloaky, since the challenge of the clone soldiers is not the rats per se, but the players hunting you while hunting the rats. Used to kill them fine with a nemesis, but I think they buffed them.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-06-23 18:15:32 UTC
Thanks for the input, have beaten a couple of Transporters in my PvP Svipul with no further problems (it's all I need to push my sec status back above -2 every now and then) ... and found a new indicator for cloners in belt. If you see a capsule on probes or dscan in a belt, it's worth having a look. Lol

I'm my own NPC alt.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#18 - 2015-06-28 09:46:32 UTC
This kills all lowsec rats including whatever that big Mordu's Legion one is called. It has the advantage of being a PvP ship in case you get jumped. I typically just belt rat while looking for fights so it works well.

You'll die a lot, of course.

[Thorax, Electron dual rep]

Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x2

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-06-28 17:40:07 UTC
BTW, was able to kill a Mordus frig and get a Garmur BPC with my buffer Svipul ... it was tough but doable with no problems. I would not engage a Mordus cruiser with my fit.

I'm my own NPC alt.
skreeDK
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-08-14 13:18:38 UTC
I've just made this setup - shouldn't that be OK for Clone hunting? (against Amarr Clones):

LOW
1 x Small Armor Repairer II
2 x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II


MED
1 x 5MN Quad LiF Restrained MicroWarpDrive
1 x Patterned Stasis Web I
1 x Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor (w. tracking speed script)
1 x Cap Recharger II


HI
5 x Light Neutron Blaster II w. Void S


RIGS
3 x Small Capacitor Control Circuit I


DPS: 626
Tank: 111/s with 75% EM and 75,6% Therm
Cap for little over 10 minutes without MWD running..
12Next page