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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2015-06-11 02:33:19 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
... Slow night and I need a distraction to stop me from buying a hat.
To cover a growing bald spot? Twisted


My locks are full and bouncy!

I have no idea why I want it. Might be some inner britishness that makes me crave it

Fire at will!



That's very nice of him.
Aza Ebanu
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2015-06-11 02:45:09 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Was in a discussion with some previous and current eve players i know. Most of them has quit, or is about to quit, mostly due to lack of content.

It made me think abit... They are in some ways correct, EVE hasnt come up with New content that has incouraged others to reactivate their accounts or keep playing. There is no New content that makes me, or those i spoke with, wanna spend more time on EVE.
And i do see that thru players i know ingame, keeps reducing their time on EVE, mainly it gives them no more "happy-juice" to keep playing.


So is it that EVE dont gives us more content, or is it me and those that over time has come to the conclusion that EVE actually has become borring?


Also, has EVE more and more been swinging into being more and more a game for mainly pvp players? A friend of mine, was a big time manufacturer and he said, he dont have the time to keep repeating the same actions over and over again, it gave him no more pleasure.


Something is for sure wrong, cuz it is not just me....

Would appreciate some pro's and con's on this.



There's no reason for PVE. Just buy a PLEX. CCP wins because they get some more of your money. PVPer win because you can afford bigger fancies to lose. You win because you don't have to play dreadful PVE content.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#43 - 2015-06-11 03:05:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Eve is a sandbox game pvp and pve are present since day one.

Eve will always thrive more if all kinds of sand are in it .

How I see eve right now is one side of it body is pvp side it is skinny unhealthy so but ok.

Other side is 10 year old corpse with just a touch here or there of life.


This can't work well you need fresh blood in droves to throw at corporations so large amount sticks and all have their kicks. ..

I am not talking about pvp and how it relates to pve crowd but rather of well balanced and executed game we all want to be in regardless of hardship the can be out there as soon,as one undock...

New(lol) sow is landig like 5 years late it will stir some crap for a time and that's it...eve will remain skinny half dead afair.












Imo.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#44 - 2015-06-11 03:12:07 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
CCP dont make content we the players do.

Every single memorable event in the games history was made by the players and the big events in EVE make headlines around the world. No PvE spoonfed content can ever compare.



The content ingame players create, are for most of it, pvp based.....


hate to break it you buddy but EvE's core is all about PvP from the beginning. Straight

Just Add Water

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#45 - 2015-06-11 03:16:12 UTC
For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Pirate
Frack you John Smedley P

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-06-11 03:28:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
As I'm sure the regular chorus was quick to point out, there has been new content - the wormhole universe mainly, burner missions, incursions....but all of these require a stepped-up level of ability and organization. The lack is in the more "normal" ability and low to mid range experience/skill missions (or activities).

I watched the new stuff introduced, tweaked, well-received, and applauded it all as significant milestone attainment in gaming. Which it is/was. However, there was still that nagging that EVE is short of content for the less than rabid players. Some people just don't slaver after gaming. Some people can't make EVE a career as they have actual careers, children and the like. Alas, there is nothing significant being done for these. All the focus is so far above this sizeable group's heads, the only thing they hear is, "Find that miraculous corporation that will hold your hand and set you on the course to Oz."

So, yeah. This is all quite true. Naturally, the ones who have the game tailored to their appetites will scream, "What're you complainin' for? Do what we're doin'!" The mega-dopes to whom gaming is just ganking helpless people will chortle (in Beavis and Butthead style) "Heh heh heh, what's your problem? Are you a MINER?" All this is none of CCP's concern, even though CCP is being paid by everyone, not just the elite chosen few, and the braindead WoW refugees sure don't pay with real MONEY.

ALL that being said, OP, I seriously doubt CCP will ever do anything about it. (Recently they've just boosted the eye candy, for instance - skins...wow.) My reading of that crew is they see themselves perched on some gaming ivory tower, and are rather condscending to the preferences of this sizeable chunk of their paying customers. They're also in the, "Don't you wish you were like me?" crowd. Don't expect any miracles from them, unless of course you want to look at shiney things instead of engage in interesting game play!
Straight

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#47 - 2015-06-11 03:45:07 UTC
Well, good points, but there is already a large amount of PvE content enough to hold a player until they do reach "a stepped-up level of ability and organization". And they have made improvements to such content as well... well mostly, I still really disliked all the dumb changes to explorer with mini-games and kitten friendly sites. So... be careful what you wish for here Straight

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#48 - 2015-06-11 04:23:02 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
In all, i cant say what New content should be, or for that matter, what i should hope it could be, but i do see players leaving the game more frequently than before. And i do see that the New additions are great for the hardcore players, but it dont bring back the more laidback players.


if you can't even answer what kind of content you want to see.... at least say pve/pvp something, anything!

there are still about a half dozen things I want to try. and plenty of things I'm bored of, or don't really care for.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#49 - 2015-06-11 04:50:09 UTC
Webvan wrote:
For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Pirate
Frack you John Smedley P



as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore

Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#50 - 2015-06-11 05:18:26 UTC
The players ARE the content.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#51 - 2015-06-11 05:34:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
Webvan wrote:
For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Pirate
Frack you John Smedley P



as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore


VIP? I rage quit after NGE, like 97% (literal) of the player-base did and never went back. At the point you are talking about, Smedley had already destroyed the game and it was well into it's death throes, even it's last gasp. This brought me to EVE. Yes, I'm an SWG:CU/NGE refugee here, as many are. If you ever look at the mmocharts graphs, you see SWG tank and EVE spike at the same point, right at the release of NGE. VIP was in it's last gasp as it became an f2p years later, in hopes of milking it's last few nickles and dimes from some wandering cash cow. You missed the true fun, was glorious.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#52 - 2015-06-11 05:41:35 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Milla Goodpussy wrote:
Webvan wrote:
For me, content idea is such as a true bounty hunter system. It's been mentioned and detailed out many times, no need to get into it. At least the write ups not involving NPC hunting, PvP would only fit imo. I had fun times with such a system... I cannot say where, but the delicious jedi tears were truly glorious Pirate
Frack you John Smedley P



as a VIP from that game.. I send you e-hugs galore


VIP? I rage quit after NGE, like 97% of the player-base did and never went back. At the point you are talking about, Smedley had already destroyed the game and it was well into it's death throes. This brought me to EVE. Yes, I'm an SWG:CU/NGE refugee here, as many are.



ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..

I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..

the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.

and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day.
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#53 - 2015-06-11 05:59:37 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..

I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..

the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.

and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day.

You are one of the three people that stuck around after the NGE patch. Your "VIP" is because it eventually went f2p to milk what ever left it could get out of you before shutting down. NGE was absolutely craptastical, in fact not event that good as it was a total abandonment of the existing player base for one they only hoped to get one day. It was an abandoned game, no one played, apart from f2p players later. Biggest fail in the mmo industry, well noted, well documented. Took many years for Smedely to actually apologize for what he did, but imo one is better off to trust a cactus.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Milla Goodpussy
Garoun Investment Bank
#54 - 2015-06-11 06:40:52 UTC
Webvan wrote:
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


ahh you're just a baby then.. VIP cause I sticked with it from start to end.. I got a dose of the bittervet syndrome but stuck with it till its last day.. I dread to imagine what eve would be like if that day ever came. I came here cause of their promise to support the product into the next 30 yrs or so.. but now that im here..

I miss my crafting stations. and my jedi stick, and my CH, TK, and frack you BH's to..

the bounty system change would go a long way here but you know they'll get around to it.. its somewhere on that 5 year long thing to do list of theirs.

and your numbers are skewed on its final day it still had more players than eve online could ever get still to this day.

You are one of the three people that stuck around after the NGE patch. Your "VIP" is because it eventually went f2p to milk what ever left it could get out of you before shutting down. NGE was absolutely craptastical, in fact not event that good as it was a total abandonment of the existing player base for one they only hoped to get one day. It was an abandoned game, no one played, apart from f2p players later. Biggest fail in the mmo industry, well noted, well documented. Took many years for Smedely to actually apologize for what he did, but imo one is better off to trust a cactus.



umm buddy you're getting SWG mixed up with SWTOR.. SWG NEVER went f2p.. SWTOR did 6 months after launch cause they tried forcing us SWG players there.. which failed faster than bioware/ea imagined..

go check your facts pls.. you quit like several years before we even shut down, you most likely have no idea what went on, we even had atmospheric flight in-game and working.. eve has yet to even go there.. but either way it was a great 8 years.
Kaydance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2015-06-11 06:57:46 UTC
Sounds like boredom, nothing will keep you entertained forever unless you're simple, thankfully I am but you may not be so blessed. I could happily ship spin for another 10 years.

Reminds me of that John Mellencamp song:

"Oh yeah life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone."

All the "new" content in the world won't keep you interested forever, after all it is just the same mechanic in a different package.
Luca Lure
Obertura
#56 - 2015-06-11 07:25:51 UTC
Pops Tickle wrote:
...You compete for jobs, for women, for the last beer. That's all PvP.


Well, i think with women, i've used pay to win for years now.

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The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#57 - 2015-06-11 07:43:40 UTC
Milla Goodpussy wrote:


umm buddy you're getting SWG mixed up with SWTOR.. SWG NEVER went f2p.. SWTOR did 6 months after launch cause they tried forcing us SWG players there.. which failed faster than bioware/ea imagined..

go check your facts pls.. you quit like several years before we even shut down, you most likely have no idea what went on, we even had atmospheric flight in-game and working.. eve has yet to even go there.. but either way it was a great 8 years.

Actually it was just a free play at the end, I got the memo. I know what went on, and I followed it's active accounts reports such as CCP does with EVE. The day they released NGE is the day it went into it's death throes. Servers died that day, and for the month my sub was still active it was virtually 0 people in the game. What few played after that were station all access members, just taking a break from their fail EQ2 and kittenized EQ1 gaming. In one single day, all the servers went from very full and active to empty. Eventually they offered you NGE players transfers to populate one or two servers. The lead dev eventually apologized for what he had done to destroy the game with NGE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Galaxies WiS and trading card games, and WoW style battlegrounds is something EVE does not need.
"in July 2012, John Smedley admitted to "stupid decisions" regarding Star Wars Galaxies combat upgrade and new gaming enhancement policies"
Stupid is an understatement.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#58 - 2015-06-11 08:03:42 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
The players ARE the content.



Since players ARE the content and the players create their own content, shouldnt then EVE open up for players creating the content they want or desires and not be bound by the limitations of the content that allready exist?
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#59 - 2015-06-11 08:05:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
yeah. game is interceptors online now, not a lot to kill anymore. Basically stopped spending tons of time on eve at that point.
People all zipping around in unlockable, bubble immune ships removes all will to pvp in this game, **** it - I hope they are content enough for someone else.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#60 - 2015-06-11 08:06:19 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Saw lack of content. Thought it was about rules. Leaving disappointed...



Ill make a thread later about rules just to please you, and ill make sure ull leave dissapointed again :D