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How old is eve universe o.O ?

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solrac lara
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-06-06 16:25:19 UTC
So i was exploring and i just found the weirdest thing a star that is 25 billions years old like how is that ?
is eve universe older than the normal universe or the devs got a bit messy with the age of stars, also i found a white dwarf which was like 600 millions years old.
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#2 - 2015-06-07 02:31:10 UTC
solrac lara wrote:
So i was exploring and i just found the weirdest thing a star that is 25 billions years old like how is that ?
is eve universe older than the normal universe or the devs got a bit messy with the age of stars, also i found a white dwarf which was like 600 millions years old.


Perhaps a bit of inaccuracy creeping through some of the procedural generation? It might be worth reporting so the devs can rectify it one day. :)

"Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home."

-Cold Wind

Ahed Sten
#3 - 2015-06-07 08:28:42 UTC
A 600 million year old star is just a baby.

Our own sun is approximately 4.6 billion years old, and, as far as science can tell, the age of our entire universe, from the moment of the big bang up until now, is about 14 billion years. Of course, this is just an estimation based off of what we can see, and our view is limited by our understanding of physics and technology.

I think we're also getting our terminology mixed up, so lets get that right.

A. The term Eve "Universe" is typically used in the same context as it is with other games, such as the WoW "Universe" or the Star Wars "Universe." - Not always relating to a physical universe with stars, but more like a game "World" including it's lore. The fact that the Eve "Universe" has stars simply complicates the matter, and the term in this sense is only supposed to refer to the game world that the players occupy, which I would call more of a "Cluster" than a "Universe."

B. Due to the nature of Wormholes, I'm pretty sure that the Eve "Universe" and our own universe are one and the same. When the Eve Gate connected us to the Eve cluster, it basically just transported us to another location in our universe, albeit probably an unknown part of it.

From this point onward we shall refer to the physical Eve "Universe" as the Eve Cluster.

The 25 billion year old star that you found may be the oldest that you've come across so far in the Eve cluster, but that doesn't mean it's the oldest star in the cluster, or in fact the oldest star in the rest of the universe. Though this particular star is significantly older than our own planet or star and the universe as we understand it to be, it doesn't mean that it's the oldest in existence. There may be other, older stars in the Eve cluster, or in the rest of the universe as a whole.

Imagine the rings of a tree. The center of this tree is the origin - The point where the big bang occurred, the event which brought about all matter. Ever since that moment, space/time has been expanding outwards, with every ring representing hundreds or even thousands or millions of light years. We, along with the sphere of visible (known) universe that surrounds us, representing 14 billion light years, (Which we perceive as the extent of the universe) may just be a tiny little circle on the outer rings of this tree's life span. Theoretically speaking, if our own solar system was connected to the Eve cluster via the Eve gate - A place much closer to the center of the tree than our own solar system - Then it is entirely possible that by crossing through the Eve gate we entered a part of the universe that is much, much older than our own.

Our ability to see further into the universe and expand our view of it is limited by our technology. Science cannot determine the origin of the universe, only that it seems to be expanding outwards and that we are somewhere within it. Even though we can only see 14 billion years of it, for all we know the oldest parts of the universe could be 100 billion years old or more.

Summary: I'm not sure what the lore says about this but i'd say (Assuming my assumptions are correct) that it's entirely reasonable that there are 25 billion year old stars in the Eve cluster.



Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2015-06-07 16:56:19 UTC
The Eve Universe is set in our distant future, a little over 20 thousand years from now. It would make sense then that the Eve Universe is pretty much our actual universe's age plus the 20 thousand years (which is really peanuts for the universe but I guess it matters for us). A lot of the procedurally generated information on celestial bodies is terribly inaccurate and should be taken with a grain of salt or, maybe better, ignored entirely.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13