Intergalactic Summit

Thank you, Mademoiselle Valentina, for proving a point I've attempted to make several times.

Commander Kim,

I've stated it to you before and I would repeat it earnestly, not out of spite or malice, but out of a sincere desire to help you express yourself in a way that is conducive to discussion and debate.

Even if what you say is one-hundred percent truth (though I'm not stating it is, it's a generalization), how you say it is every bit as important as what you have to say. If I were to stand here and tell you the absolute truth of a situation but do so through the use of insults, demeaning terminology, dismissive arrogance or antagonistic taunts then you'll no more listen to what I'm saying than a wall would.

It is one thing to speak truth.

It is another thing entirely to speak truth and be heard.

Look around, just look around at replies here.
How I can you ask me to speak with respect towards those, who can't answer my points and just speak about me?

And now look at your own reply.

Have you said which exact line in the petition was containing "insults, demeaning terminology, dismissive arrogance or antagonistic taunts"? So I could admit which exact mistake I did and fix?

No, you have said that I DO SO "through the use of insults, demeaning terminology, dismissive arrogance or antagonistic taunts".

Yes, it means you can't participate in civilized conversation as well, yet demanding me to do so. You wanted some "insults, demeaning terminology, dismissive arrogance or antagonistic taunts", very well, I will give you them, frog. Now at least this your line isn't a lie. Won't make your point and demand valid yet.

You have been measured, weighted and found wanting.

Next.

I didn't ask for opinion of Kuvakei's talking puppet on State affairs. Get some working clone brains first, then we'll talk.

Bad input = bad output.

You could tell her that she looks good in her uniform and she would take offense simply because you are Gallente.

Liam, don't bother.

she took your earlier statement of 'if I were to do so' as 'you do so' ....
Diana, while completely capable of discerning the true meaning of your words, CHOOSES to misinterpret them and take offence.

Take her response to Pieter, where she says she doesn't care for the intent of his words, merely that her own misinterpretation of them was, mistakenly, taken as an insult.

then she has the nerve to claim that he is a traitor to the state due to the fact that his corporation is currently on secondment to the Amarr militia.

all the time claiming that her position within a corporation that has no requirement beyond not having negative standings with the state, proves a damned thing.

given a few short weeks, I could improve my Caldari standings to the point that I could join the State Protectorate. a Militia organisation with no legal ties to the navy. Created specifically to remove the navies from the proxy war.
That would not make me any more state loyal than I am a proponent of the Black Eagles.

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so, let's look at the petition in more direct terms, much like you have.

I agree, wholeheartedly, that if possible, the SDII (Black Eagles) should be ousted from their current position, They have a vast reach within the Federation as well as their black flag and illegal operations outside the Federation. Their abuse of power is well documented and has been spoken out against on many occasions.

The call to make the Federation navy a terrorist organisation is farcical to say the least, however, in the interest of answering the point in full, the actions of Noir were, even in his own words, broadcast in open comms, his own.

The call for the declassification of the Dragonaur as a terrorist organisation based on false claims is also quite simply a joke.
Given that the CEP declared their actions, and those of Tibus Heth, to be Terrorism in recent years, the claim that they have not taken part in such activities is patently incorrect.

and finally, the events of Operation Highlander.
Hypothetically, if those actions are to be seen as war crimes, a full investigation should be undertaken.
During the events on that fateful day, Admiral Yanala clearly stated that she had been directly ordered by the Executor to move into a low orbit along with her attendant fleet.
She had also clearly stated that her orders included the use of her Oblivion doomsday weapon upon the planetary surface. Such a weapon is capable of destroying the entire biosphere of a planet.
The choice to move the combat into a low orbit, therefore lies with Caldari Navy personnel and Tibus Heth.

At that point, it could be argued that the choice to continue the engagement with the Shiigeru actually saved many lives, as prior to the titan's destruction, after the failure of the primary reactor and primary vessel systems, the honoured Admiral jettisoned all ordnance high enough in orbit to cause it to burn up without the chance of falling to the surface and detonating.

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In conclusion, While the Black eagles, a corporation who are universally mistrusted and feared both within the federation and without, could, potentially be classified as terrorists, this is an unlikely turn of events.
As for the rest of the points raised, simply... nope.

-Tertianus Rethelior

consistently =! constantly.

There is a difference between the two terms Diana.
Once again you have misinterpreted a post and decided it is an 'attack' against you when, in fact, it is merely a description of your normal posting style.

I am sorry to disappoint you, but these your speech are about yourself, as you have shown yourself incapable of putting anything of value to the conversation and just insult, thinking, that this will make anything you speak matter.
It is not.

You have already lost the moment you have started, and it is rather sad to witness you trying to wriggle and puff up. You are physically unable to argument against me and you know it, that's why you descend to petty insults and lies.
Can you see now that it is you, who are irrelevant, as you words are irrelevant, that you are annoying, as you are just insulting instead of even trying to bring anything of value, and such behavior as your is definitely not wanted.

You are just like that idiot who posted before you just to yelp about word usage.

You have recieved at least two direct responses that have taken your OP apart and refuted each point separately.
Rather than respond to these, you have pointedly ignored them.

By your actions, you prove your words to be false and those of others to be correct.

-Tertianus Rethelior

It suits me just fine, being irrelevant in an irrelevant thread. My first experience with you was listening to you insult the Minmatar, and you have yet to prove you're capable of being truly civil. Why would I bother doing anything other than disrespect you? Your words don't warrant my respect.