EVE General Discussion

Gentleman,

sorry for my english. for me is difficult telling of game in english, writing in medical and gaming issue is even worst.

the problem is that: with new icons is almost impossible for daltonic ( color blind ) to do pvp.

i dont blame the new icons, and modernization and all. The main problem is the new icon have the color backgrund too much transparent in space and dont allow to daltonic (color blind) to see istantly who is red, who is blue and what happening in space.

i have around 7000 kills, i know how overview and pvp works. The overview setting is not a problem, is unchanged.

what is changed is the shape of the icons in space. It is not a problem, your choice.

the problem i need to be more clear and more visible the backgrund color of icon in space.

if i chose red, in example, i need a non transparent, defined red color not a transparent one. because it come invisible.

now i see, and some other daltonic in corp see, the icon in space we see the blu too much dark and fade to black and the red is too much dark and fade to black so i dont see the difference between red and blue.

i need help on that, i need more clear colour or personalization or is impossilble to play.

i found this site, i dont know if it works (of course) but i forward a link: http://www.color-blindness.com/coblis-color-blindness-simulator/

i have 4 daltonic in 120 man corp. it's a problem now. please help.

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we ask, as suggested from a brave newbie friend in this topic and other friends in topic:

(as i wrote up , i'm in difficult in english eve-mode , english medical\UI mode is even harder)


We know about Overview Settings -> Appearance > Use small colortags -> Uncheck. However, we need more colors to choose from for colortags that do not clash with specific color blindness limitations.

The little icons on the bottom right of each overview ship icon is hard to see, especially if two colors seem to blend into each other due to colorblindness (ie: red and green).

The ship icons in space need an option for solid backgrounds, with these backgrounds being more vibrant colors when the non-transparent option is selected.


A colorblind person can't really explain because we just dont know what's normal with some colors. A change of icons can make it less clear with certain colors used or even with most for a colorblind person. You yourself give the example of light sensitivity. You can try to explain how things are different and make your eyes hurt, but a "normal" person wont ever get that because they dont experience it themselves. ---> i think a SOLID, non TRANSPARENT, and costumizable background color of icon (for that i think a background color even for wreck (actually i did some engage and i found myself checking if a wreck is a wreck or ship many times) can help. Before the wreck has a solid -not blur- white color that instantly allow us to understand is not a blue or red.

World of tanks \ wargaming have the color blind mode or at least the choice to switch.

i have played this game since 2011 and ceo of a big community (2 meeting in last few months only) and i think not allowing me to play for medical reason (according to wiki the 4% of poulation suffer this chromatic problem) i think is really unacceptable. i did 2 year subscription for a game that allow play to daltonic since 3 day ago ....

Its not just the color blind who are having problems. The new icons just plan stink. They are too small and blend into the background, making them difficult to see or distinguish. Worse there are too many needless icons. When you engage in pvp, instead of imparting information, its a meaningless jumble - that's assuming of course that you can actually see any of it as all because more likely then not a significant portion of the icons will have faded into the white background of some star or other.

I definitely support this. Not color blind myself, but I can appreciate how frustrating this change must be for you.

Hope CCP does something to make it easier.

Closing this thread with a direction to the mega thread where CCP is absent for hundreds of posts, as in "GET USED TO IT!" is going to be tough.


On topic, I cannot believe, I'm totally floored and disgusted that they didn't check how this icon disaster would affect those with color blindness.

Really, wtf CCP?

+1 support

CCP should do something to help

I thought it was pretty much standard practice to take account of accessibility issues when designing web interfaces these days. Most of us have been incorporating it into web design for years. CCP have really dropped a big one here if it wasn't part of the design process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessibility

I support that. Why limit people with disability like this? Seems like an easy fix/potential PR headache for CCP if folks start loudly complaining on Reddit or elsewhere.

+1 support

This.

Also +1 to OP.