EVE General Discussion

Hi guys,

I have three active subscriptions and I pay for all three off my Credit Card as I work full time and rarely have enough ISK to buy PLEX for all three.

This guy is my main and oldest Character and up until this point has grinded level four missions to complete boredom. I hold 9.9 relations with most the NPCs

My second character is Industrial, flies a Skiff / Noctis lvl 5 refine / Slavage skills etc and max standing with refinery station I use.

My third guy was intended to be PVP but is now going towards secondary industrial guy (why - below)

I have, with this guy mainly, been playing Eve on and off for about five years. I subscribe, grind missions, get bored and think well I will try PVP. This always ends badly so I unsub. By badly, I mean I venture into Null sec with my Stealth Bomber / Interceptor, can find no one thats not in a fleet camping a gate (lack the knowledge and skills to use D-Scanner / Probes). So I then tried Factional Warfare, undocked, warped to gate, jumped = dead (another gate camp). So I joined a FW Corp. Grouped up in fleets, roaming around, found players and they either legged it, jumped or the "fight" was over before I could even lock. I then joined another corp, these guys sat on gates, which bored the hell out of me. I decided that PVP therefore, was not for me and became a h-sec carebear.

This cycle of subbing - unsubbing recurred on and on until I decided that I would treat Eve like an updated version of X3 Reunion in so far as I would contrabute to the market "build an empire" and have nothing to do with PVP. I then got "ganked" a few times, once been by CODE who then had the audacity to blame me for not paying them 10 mil ISK! Now, I simply have my two alts mining, the older one is trying to get into manufacturing but I am taking a while getting to grips with things as first I was using BPOs that were unresearched and then I was flooding the market with things so the price went right down (built 100 1600mm Armour plates as they were selling for 3mil, now they are going for little over 1mil but cost me around 920 to build) second guy going following the first with Skills to fly a Skiff / Hulk while this guy will be trained up to Orca level. Now I have changed direction in Eve, I find that by time I come home from work and log on, each system + 6 jumps in any direction is mined to oblivion.

So finally, my question = What can I do on Eve? I appreciate if I am asking this after years of game play I don't belong on Eve but I do want to enjoy the game. Just PVP consists of Gate Camps / Ganking and Mining consists of people who are available straight after "downtime" to get out and mine...

Unfortunately, the shift in direction means weeks / months of additional SP training.

Thank you in advance, apologies for the essay.

Nathan

I appreciate the comment and it makes perfect sense.

However, all I get is people trying to recruit me in to their corp as I have three subs and relocate my stuff to Null Sec.

Someone in help channel suggested I become a pirate and try "ganking" / evading Concorde etc. I fitted a Catalyst and managed to find an unsuspecting Procurer who I proceeded to Gank. I felt instantly bad, apologised in local and sent him the ISK to cover the loss (and then some!). I now mine with the guy and made a friend so I know that piracy or ganking is not for me.

Am I wrong, or is Eve a compilation of Gate Camps? this is all I have seen... This isn't meant as a provocative comment its a simple question as if this is the case then it restricts the "multiplayer" function you suggest I go for

I already have friends like 12 or something (LOL) but seriously, they are each in corps / alliances and often invite me to Null but spending some time in their team speak channel, all the ops are "warp when ready.. jump"... enemy fleet, they outnumber us... leg it.. / we have 2:1 their ships engage... oh they ran.. rinse repeat.

This is why I have created a forum requesting information about what else I can do as Gate camping / roaming is not for me, small PVP, hunting etc more than likely is but not sitting orbiting a gate waiting for a lone ship to get instapopped.

Thanks again

This happens a lot. a new-ish player listens in or joins up with 'friends' in bad corps or in bad situations, thinks the whole game is like that, and feels stuck.

There is also the fact that you've been invited to do things, but have chosen not to based only on your limited perception of what goes on in some corps team speak. It's self limiting behavior and almost sounds like you are making excuses for not doing stuff. Let go of that. Just jump in and do stuff, these are not real ships, only pixels, their loss means nothing at all.

I bought some frigs with the intention of going out and getting blown up. This happened and each time it was undocking from a station or on a gate. Not once have I managed to get into a fight at my own choosing. Not once have I found anyone to have a dual with.

I agree wholeheartedly, the problem is me and my ignorance which is exactly why I created this forum. I expected troll comments (Not saying yours is as it isnt) but I hoped I would get some decent ideas. The 12 character thing sounds interesting but given you have to suspend training on one to train another, or buy additional plex, this isnt really a viable option for me. IF I got into Eve and found my calling, I may very well sub a few more accounts. At the moment however, all thats happening is I log all three guys on, nope nothing to mine. CBA to grind yet more missions = log off.

Nope there is nothing wrong with you, it is the game design. Currently, the game design favors blobs. Here. Either a gate camp or, gang, or fleet. PVP is like that in most MMOs, but EVE lore and design doesn't mitigate at all. I had co workers at an old job who tried EVE, but felt it ended up being a "mining sim". PVP is so hard to get into. You are not the only one. EVE is a weird game but, it wont change, so I'd recommend finding something else to play.

Your end point took me a long time to "get there". I spent billions of Faction ship, and gear. Then dearnt undock the bloody thing! Now I fly a RS purely for the ease at churning lvl 4s with Sentries. I have lost loads of ships, mainly AFs so it doesnt bother me.

My method of thought at the moment is - well I could try Wormhole space, finding and the such. OK what do I need, suitable frig etc... right I will get owned by anyone hunting so I need my two alts as cover.. Oh they indy, no combat skills.. *sigh* and I just get demoralised by it. I have started training my second oldest guy to use Core launchers. I think your right tho, maybe I should just bite the bullet and relocate myself to null sec or at least do something thats not purely NPC based

OP, this is the kind of 'advice' you need to ignore. It generally comes from people who try to find excuses for why they themselves fail at doing something. In my experience, high sec is FULL of people like this, and if you are in high sec, get out, find either a nice WH/LS/NS group to hang with, or a high sec group not filled with self limiting excuse makers.

EVE's pvp is easier to get into now than ever. Remember the names i told you: Red vs Blue, Spectre fleet, and I'll add Brave Newbies to that as well. And almost any group in Faction Warfare.

Can you be more objective? My response has nothing to do with failures or excuses. The OP shouldn't feel bad if he is bored with the game. I've lived out in null and it is the same as it is in in high sec. You just have more EVE stuff like cynos, bubbles, cap ships, etc... LS and NS is the same as high sec, they just have little gimmicks. If the OP doesn't like the game, peer pressure isn't going to make him stay.

Make older friends.