EVE General Discussion

OP, unfortunately you won't get much support for such an idea on these forums, or indeed for any idea that hurts the feelings of HTFU bittervets who waited for their skills to train and can't handle the idea of a new system that rewards skill points at a faster rate then they obtained them 'back in the day'.

You will also note the amusing bare-faced hypocrisy of players arguing that speedier acquisition of SP amounts to an unfair advantage, and yet the very same people will argue that SP is not important. Go and read the SP thread in F&I for a good chuckle.

I support the idea of a means to gain SP faster, particularly for new players. But you'll find that the community on the official forums is highly averse to any changes which give new players an 'easier' time than they had when they first started playing. You'll find a more reasonable audience on the EVE subreddit.

Well, of course it's clear to anyone reading that what I suggested would do no such thing. But please continue to try to shut the thread down with silly baseless rants.

As some of the more veteran members of the forums may be aware, the topic of SP remapping and/or buying is a very common one, and has been for years and years. It shows up in all sorts of subforums, and has been discussed very thoroughly because of the number of times it's been brought up over a long period of time. Because of this, new threads on it immediately run into rule #17 of the forums:



For almost all other topics, invoking rule #17 means actually redirecting the discussion to an already existing thread about it. Due to its oft-reposted nature, though, this has not been possible for threads about SP remapping and/or buying. That's not fair to people who actually wish to discuss it, and we do not wish to stifle good discussions.
Because of this, we are creating this centralized Official Skill Points remapping/buying™ thread to serve as the gathering place for discussion about it. Any future threads on this same topic will be locked and redirected here for discussion.

To emphasize: this thread is on the topic of balance, changes, or feedback on the mechanic of remapping and/or acquiring Skillpoints in different ways than the current game mechanics allow. Posts outside this topic will be moderated/deleted.

Please keep the discussion and feedback civil and constructive!

A list of relatively recent threads on the topic and related ones for reference:
- [New Player Experience] - Idea/Suggestion: One-time Skillpoint Remaps?
- Use PLEX for SP boost
- Neural Remapping Improvements
- Remapping and implants alternative
- attributes / implants - some ideas
- Activities effect training time..
- PLEX for Bonus Neural Remaps?
- NEW Implant Idea
- Skill Point Flexibility
- Un-training skills
- Lost Training Time
- Remove training bonus implants
- More skills
- Attributes

Reality would like a word with you.

New players already train skills faster than they have at any time in the past, which is a consequence of CCP removing learning skills and changing player attributes to compensate; here's the kicker, hardly any of the "HTFU bittervets" had a problem with CCP doing so, in fact most of us who did have to do learning skills agreed that it was a good thing for the game.

As Omar pointed out, the current rate of skill progression allows people to master the basics before stepping forward. A relative newbie in a shiny BC or BS is a, relatively speaking expensive, killmail waiting to happen because they haven't mastered the basics and don't know how to utilise it effectively.

I'm going to buy a Golem, slap a Kaalakiota SKIN on it, and park it on the undock of a rookie station in honor of OP.

And leave it empty just to let them try to get in it.

And yet 50% of new players quit after a month. I don't think anyone is arguing for a system which allows newbies to sit in a BS after two weeks, but IMO something needs to be done with the initial allocation of SP so that new players don't feel completely useless. Inb4 hero tacklers.