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Machimpy
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-05-31 14:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Machimpy
Hi,

I have this issue,

I really like this game, been playing it a while.

But you see, I like RL more, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

Only just to log in, do whatever i feel like for a little bit and log off.

I am willing to put 3h a week into this game.

My issue with that ammount of time and the options available to me ingame to be able to afford it (ie some pvp and losing/replacing ships), simply dont allow me to do so without a minimum effort of at least 8hrs a week.

I do not have such time, yet, I still want to pay my sub and play the way i'd like to.

I cannot afford to buy PLEX as I prefer saving my money for other more important stuff.

So here are the options laid out:

Trading ? Impossible as I'd have to log on every couple hours every day to adjust prices if my aim is to make good income in a competitive market.

Ded sites module farming ? Not possible, as that alone would take a good couple of hours to find and run through, not to mention the irrecoverable risk of losing a ratting ship next to my limited playtime allowance.

WH Pi ? Not worth the effort as most wh alliances and corps would require a time dedication that i simply cannot give, not mention how I hate being forced on TS to listen to you guys blabble crap in my ears within the comfort of my own home.

Empire Pi ? Not worth the hauling and preparation effort to make it feasible within my playtime.

Null Exploration ? A likely contender, but the ammount of time usually taken to find a good enough site trumps all over my playtime allowance, good relic sites with tech 2 mods bp's in are scarce, and good data sites even more.

Incursions ? Nope, the time it takes finding a fleet easily trumps my playtime, and no way would I want to find myself ratting for all the time I have.

Scamming ? A very likely contender, as I've never really tried it. Im open to private suggestions/help on this.

And the list could surely go on I hope ...

If you guys have any other ideas, feel free to add in. It's either I find a solution to this soon or Im pretty much biomassing all my **** for good, as I dont see the point, nor do I see myself playing this game in the far future.

Cheers.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-05-31 14:38:17 UTC
First this game is better than RL so you are wrong directly off the bat.
Second, please before you leave can you send me lile 50mill?
I will create content with it that shall maybe persuade the wow-refugee that replaces you to stay.
But for real ill teach you how to do it all and make isk woth 45mins 3 times a week, just send 50mill as course class registration fee
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-05-31 14:43:42 UTC
Open further rereading of your post, you seem to have your priorities out of whack dude.
Have more important things to spend money on that plex?
Have more imporntant things to do with your time than eve?

Quote:

, i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to.

Only just to log in, do whatever i feel like for a little bit and log off.


I belive Call of Duty is the game you are looking for, or Wold of Warcraft.




Honest question, how did you come to be here with us in eve?
What did you expect?

See an ad? Read a story bout a big heist? Saw tale about giant fleet battle on reddit?
Friend reccomend it?

Please be honest, trying to figure out what entised you to come try this video game in the first point to see how to help you.
Belesia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
#4 - 2015-05-31 14:44:15 UTC
Why can't you do DED sites?

Use a low population area or something like a highsec pocket and you'll find plenty of sites to run within 3 hours. A 4/10 only takes around 10-20 mins for example. Unless you have very low skill points in scanning/combat there's no reason you can't do this.
FunGu Arsten
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-05-31 14:45:35 UTC  |  Edited by: FunGu Arsten
buy tornado - win eve
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-05-31 14:46:11 UTC
if you cant afford to buy a plex and cant really afford to put more than 3 hours and rl things are better than playing a game you "enjoy" then why even bother playing, will you log off exactly 3 hours from logging in?

maybe facebook games might suit you a bit better, nobody forces you to play eve so the mindset that "i dont want to spend much time with this game more than I have to" is pretty lame

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-05-31 14:52:25 UTC
Try FW. It's lucrative and you don't need much to get started (just a frigate + some weapons).
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-05-31 14:58:35 UTC
You clearly are not the right person for this video game nor this the right video game for you.


I am sooooooooooo curious as to how you ended up here in why, what you thought it was gonna be like. How you heard of it, etc
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-05-31 14:58:56 UTC
.../hands out a cookie

"Time and tide wait for no man,

No one is so powerful that they can stop the march of time".

Time is equal to ones life span, what we choose to do with our time is rather subjective to our own needs & what happens around us. In most cases we don't always have full control of what time we can choose for certain things. With this being said, just relax & enjoy what time you do have & spend it doing what you enjoy the most.

Did someone once say "time is relative" Shocked

EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
DrSmegma
Smegma United
#10 - 2015-05-31 16:12:25 UTC
I don't get it, why does it matter how you spend those 3 hours if you don't want to earn a plex anyway? Just do whatever maan.

Eve too complicated? Try Astrum Regatta.
Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-05-31 16:57:25 UTC
Get some good research agents going. Passive income. You can still trade too, you just won't make fast profits but still make profits. FW is good for quick content. Industry would be great as it takes time between activities and you don't have to be online.

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose. Unless you podded them...and collected their corpse.
Machimpy
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-05-31 19:20:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Machimpy
Okay so in response to the smartarse remarks, Ive had the pleasure to be with you delicate folk for quite some time now, half a decade. Isk had never been an issue back when i could still put in the niche hours and dedication necessary, free time was not an issue then and I do know what it means to be entirely invested in Eve, or as some other guy earlier said, it was "meant" to be played...

But all thats hardly the issue, the above is simply not possible anymore due to Rl time schedule and other, yes "more important" activities, ie: directly related to Rl concerns, which i have the regret to say none of you asocial beings fit into ;). It comes down to still wanting to play Eve and not have to spend more than 300 bucks a year on plex and sub just to keep some form of fun pvp activity going ingame. Frankly most here would agree this as an insane alternative, save for those fat single men with large bank accounts ;) I much sadly don't fit in that category though ...

Practical responses offering even a hint at a practical solution to remain ingame are welcome, the rest, you know where the door is. Ty
Valkin Mordirc
#13 - 2015-05-31 19:25:16 UTC
If you have more then two accounts, Trying Nado Ganking on Undocks.


Just ship scan haulers that are undocking, to guessmath to figure out if you can make a profit, and if you can alpha the ship.


If yes to both. Blow ship up, Loot with alt hauler and dock alt hauler


Then you just made a nice amount of isk.
#DeleteTheWeak
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#14 - 2015-05-31 19:26:25 UTC
In 3 hours i can:
mine a lot and use the ore after a few weeks ot build a few ships i can sell

go to a wh, setup my own pos, and do pi and or raid the sites, which cna net me 300m isk an hour if i'm lucky

get an exploration ship, run to 0.0, hunt down data and relic sites which could net me another 500m if i'm luck.

gate camp and kill some idiots.

join an alliance and time my play time with a cta or a fleet roam.

You don;t need to join a corp or alliance to do wh's, you can make your own corp, spend a few week looking, fin a hole that is empty, set up, milk it for a month or two, and leave. If you play your cards right and can solo your home or static, you could net a couple billion in a few months, then go pvp for a few months, then reset in the wh. it really is not that bloody hard to do stuff.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Khanid Voltar
#15 - 2015-05-31 19:29:25 UTC
You could just spend those 3 hours trolling the forums...
Machimpy
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-05-31 19:33:59 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
In 3 hours i can:
mine a lot and use the ore after a few weeks ot build a few ships i can sell

go to a wh, setup my own pos, and do pi and or raid the sites, which cna net me 300m isk an hour if i'm lucky

get an exploration ship, run to 0.0, hunt down data and relic sites which could net me another 500m if i'm luck.

gate camp and kill some idiots.

join an alliance and time my play time with a cta or a fleet roam.

You don;t need to join a corp or alliance to do wh's, you can make your own corp, spend a few week looking, fin a hole that is empty, set up, milk it for a month or two, and leave. If you play your cards right and can solo your home or static, you could net a couple billion in a few months, then go pvp for a few months, then reset in the wh. it really is not that bloody hard to do stuff.


All that, in 3hrs with only one acct?
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-05-31 19:37:17 UTC
- Doesn't want to buy PLEX, because it's not worth it.
- Doesn't want to spend more than 3 hours in game, because it's not worth it.
- Doesn't want to put in any work or invest any effort at all, because it's not worth it.

Sounds like to me you don't really like this game at all.

So, go ahead and send all of your stuff to UAE and biomass your characters. Have a nice life. Smile

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
Machimpy
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-05-31 19:37:48 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
If you have more then two accounts, Trying Nado Ganking on Undocks.


Just ship scan haulers that are undocking, to guessmath to figure out if you can make a profit, and if you can alpha the ship.


If yes to both. Blow ship up, Loot with alt hauler and dock alt hauler


Then you just made a nice amount of isk.


Hi Goons. ;)

And gladly, except im not extending further than one account. But it's an idea, are you recruting ?
Machimpy
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-05-31 19:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Machimpy
Zealous Miner wrote:
- Doesn't want to buy PLEX, because it's not worth it.
- Doesn't want to spend more than 3 hours in game, because it's not worth it.
- Doesn't want to put in any work or invest any effort at all, because it's not worth it.

Sounds like to me you don't really like this game at all.

So, go ahead and send all of your stuff to UAE and biomass your characters. Have a nice life. Smile


Yea it's been getting rather short on options to stay, worth it or not, for some life still happens nonetheless, and for some others ... well ...
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-05-31 19:49:33 UTC
Such a pointless topic... i thought i would post in it again. Shocked Since i like to waist my own time Blink

You claim you have limited time to play the game. This is the problem "Not the game" .


This is the Core reason many games get this:

dumbed-down

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adjective: dumbed-down; adjective: dumbeddown

simplified so as to be intellectually undemanding and accessible to a wide audience.



EVEBoard ...Just over 60million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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