Warfare & Tactics

Baiting is not done with ships people know are dangerous, it is done with ships people think they can easily kill...

I know but gonna get a few and they are like presents to myself. Like toys. And gonna be against like dumb bear corps and dude we both know they bring their battleships out against assault frigs and faction cruisers often. Assault frigs are too slow, just wanna fly either of these two and going against dumb people so they will bite.

I LOVE the ishkur and the comet too. I just want to have the fast kite pirate frig toys and its either dram or DD.
I mean sure i can buy a few 30-40mill nice ishkurs but want something different. Something fast something shiny

Fair enough, I prefer blaster devil myself though, damn funny thing to fly.

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If you're up against battleships class vessels you're going to have an hard time breaking their tank with a Dramiel since it has a pretty ****** dps. It can be done, but it will take time and the more time you spend on your target, the more likely backup will come.

So if you're really going to choose between the Dram et the Daredevil I'd go for the Daredevil.

I think something like this would work : http://i.imgur.com/IfFLYtt.png

Fit is very tight because of the nos, however i think the Nos is very important in case they have neuts.

Bulkheads are here incase you get neuted to death, you can still keep point and guns running with the nos but you won't be able to pulse your rep that much, hence the bulkheads so you have a nice buffer, that'll give you the time needed to pop their drones (remember vs battleships you NEED to kill the drones first. Once they're out of drones they're dead if you get a tight orbit on them they'll never hit you with their guns).

370dps with void, way more than what the Dramiel has.

For true elite PvP a Noob ship should be sufficent

I like the Dram, because it can give you flexibility. The Daredevil will spit more raw DPS, but depending on you fit will dictate the type of fight you can engage in and can eventually make you predictable with KB scouting. Dual prop Drams are dangerous, can pick their range well and I like the way they look more.

So the Dramiel is the obvious choice.

dual prop dram is really fun, with hull tank for extra manliness.

Dual prop dramiel, best dramiel. Even if you get scrammed and webbed, you can bail straight out of any 1v1 fight with ease if you know you're not going to win. It's also great for catching those kiting f^#*@^^%s. Also, projectiles require no capacitor to use. No cap, no problem. A ship with enough neuting power can turn off your prop modules, but think, if a dragoon with highslots full of neuts only has drones for dps, kill the drones, and there's nothing he can do to kill you.

Scram web daredevil is great fun though. Make it buffer hull tanked to add even more fun.