Wormholes

I'll just get to it.

Not being able to unplug implants without destroying them is a 2005 gaming concept. It should be over with.

We have already and thankfully gotten rid of the stupid pod upgrade fee. This is the next step to make pods a more dynamic experience and, more importantly, REDUCE RISK AVERSE BEHAVIOR.

The solution would also be easily implemented as it would not require major server changes to the pod jumping mechanic. We can keep that the same and weirdness of clone jumping into or out of WH space can be left for a later discussion based on its own merits.

Now, kill mails are still nice. How do we keep those from being screwed up?
(A) They already can be if the person chooses to pull implants while they are in structure.
(B) Add a station/Rorqual pod requirement for this ability. Else, implant removal leads to destruction.

Feedback would be much appreciated. What am I missing? Why do you think this would be a horrible idea for wh space or EVE in general?

Its not a horrible idea at all, but i dont think you should be able to un-plug all implants, only the lower tier ones.

In my world (New Eden, full of flying dragons and mermaids) the higher grade implants you get, the higher permanent impact it will have on your body/brain and some of the really "beastmode" ones, would have such a big impact, that you simply would not be able to pull them out, without killing your clone, because they become such a big part of your physiology.

Dunno if i sound crazy, but i do think there should be a real risk involved with using the "good" implants (higher tier), both because of price, but also because it doesnt make sense to be able to pull things out of your body, when they are completely integrated into it.
Lower tier implants have a much lower impact on your body and skills and could be considered easier to remove again, without destroying parts of the body, nervous system and what ever else they could possibly be connected to.

Perhaps a random destruction % would suffice? Not sure tbh, but i really dont want to see the ability to remove complex implants, without some kind of consequense.

Just my 0.02 isk :P

I just listened to corbexx's thing. I hear them talking about it. Great minds think alike?

Give people cojones. Change the game culture away from risk aversion and ISK hoarding.

People might actually #YOLO a bit more if they weren't so damned afraid of either being made fun of for losing something in an honest attempt at PVP, or an honest attempt at grinding ISK they *actually needed*.

People might #YOLO a bit more if they realised the chances of running out of ISK in game and being unable to fly a single ship is a million times lower than their chances of just quitting the game anyway because they are bored, or everyone else is bored and the game dies a slow cold death of paralysis.

I mean, really, all this talk about implants being a barrier to PVP is crap. The old adage "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" is as apposit as "if you buy it, it's dead" or "all ships die when they undock and live again only when docked" is NOTHING compared to what everyone knows which is, to wit,

a) train mother-hugging Infomorph Psychology to 4
b) join Estel Arador Corp services*
c) spawn 4 jump clowns
d) leave EACS and rejoin your bunch of nerdy knuckle-shufflers and any CEO worth their salt filters EACS off your employment history because duh
e) OMG you might be able to JC to a cheap clone once in a while for whelping purposes

* - does not apply to CEO's because we suffer inability to churn corps in order to bring you content, so can we have a CEO implent which allows us to bypass standings restrictions and spawn clones?

Seriously, the crying about frigate holes was acute, pathetic and childish because all the apparrently elite PVPers in w-space literally are physically prevented from PVPing because their ships don't have 200K EHP, they can't bring 3 Guardians and a Falcon, and they have clones, I quote "worth ten times a frigate's cost and this is how everyone rolls in w-space".

I said it then, I will repeat it now: pshaw.

Iyokus knows we get most of our content these days via frigate holes. We all are running fairly cheap clones because of this. We have a Rorqual cloning service for newer members, or they get a leave pass to EACS to spawn them, and we have fun, no bitching about implants or crying about using T3 destroyers, only about lack of appropriate frigate logi.

Perhaps the existing flavor could be maintained if implants could be freely removed and reinstalled but only in the head of the person they were used in. Some might call it spirit binding, others might just think of it as good sense not using second hand medical appliances.

If the implants are permanently mapped to the one person who first installed them they would not be resellable as they would be useless to anyone else. If anything it would be good for the implant market as each person would likely many spare implants as they would trade what they wanted in and out. I know I would buy several sets of expensive implants that I do not have now because I fly too much cheap stuff to justify having them. They would still be risking whatever they were flying at the moment of death. It just steps around the problem of not being able to "refit" for a frigate hole or t1 roam or some other suicide yolo op.

I don't have any complaints about implants myself, except that drone implants are missing.
And maybe they could make implants, hardwirings drop as loot when pod pops perhaps?
Or that they can be extracted with a salvager?

I don't necessarily believe that having the ability to horde implants for every situation is a good idea. If CCP decides to do exactly this, will I object? no.

There is a bigger impact in gameplay here. I just can't pinpoint if its good or bad.

also frigate logi is crap and it makes me sad

I guess I never thought much about min/max situations. I thought more of the situation where you would want to go on a suicide roam to null. I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news: People don't take 1 bill pods on frigate roams to null. Maybe that is disappointing to some with huge e-penises, but that's how the universe works.

As far as people switching between sets to min/max goes, that is already there. It's the main reason that I don't give it much thought. Corps/alliances decide on the primary defensive type (armor/shield/sig/speed) and get implants for those. And then get a ship at every level and min/max it. And then get a wh with an effect to boost that advantage even more. Changing how implants work would not introduce new behavior. It already exists in a slightly different form, but this change would increase a new element of game of play.

Besides, some of the arguments made so far against swapping implants are actually arguments against the implants themselves. Gotta decouple those two.

Also, I think that wh picture should be updated with the following:
http://feelgrafix.com/data_images/out/20/930309-desert.jpg