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Human Relationships And The Apocalypse

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Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-05-27 01:28:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Desideratus
What is this thread about, you might ask? Well, let me tell you.

If you would like to take part in this thread, there are a few main questions I would like you to answer for me. The first group of questions are about Human Relationships, specifically romantic or reproductive relationships. The second group is about human beings overall, our purpose of existence, and the possible / probable coming Apocalypse. The third group of questions will be a combined group, dealing with human relationships in light of overall humanity and the possible / probably coming Apocalypse.

Relationships

Humans are basically like any other animal in this sense. We see something we like, we go and make babies with it. Throughout history people have often romanticized the vehicle of human reproduction. You have concepts like love, hate, dating, and the ill-conceived notion that we ought to find one person to "spend the rest of our lives" with. With all that in mind, here are a few questions

1. What is love? How would you personally define love? (Humanity's definition of love is incredibly variable depending on who you ask)

2. What is the point of being in a monogamous relationship, if your partner has already had sex with other men or women, probably many times? Why do people feel the need to be with "one person" when that person has already been thoroughly penetrated? Also bear in mind that you will most likely not spend your life with one person, why do so many people cling helplessly to this sort of pipe dream?

I don't even want to go into the concept of dating, since it would just become a long rhetorical rant about the uselessness of the idea, not to mention it's overall ill-conceived nature.

The Apocalypse

As you probably know, we are creatures living on a planet, drifting around infinite space, eternal time, and we have NO idea what we are doing. We're just doing it. We've committed many genocides, even to our own species, and contributed massively to the amount of suffering that takes place in this world. We are digging massive holes into the earth, we are polluting the air we need to breath, polluting the water we need to drink, and in general we just seem to be nothing more than a really nasty infestation. Kind of cool when you think about it. With all that in mind, here are a few questions

3. Are we as humans, in truth, destroying the planet we live on? If so, just how much destruction do you think we have managed to do to our environment? Is it too late to turn back? Are there ways to save us as a species?

4. If you answered yes / yes / no to the above questions, do you think that space travel and / or the colonization of other planets can save humanity from the pollutions and infections we have created, or will we be long gone before we even get that chance?

5. Do you think that I am way off base in these descriptions? Am I overreacting? Am I reading too much bullshit? Is global warming just a myth?

Human Relationships And The Apocalypse

The dumbest people are the ones who always have the most babies. People pump out units without even thinking about it before hand, basically just because they were horny. I've seen it first hand because I am a product of this selfish idiocy. My parents had 5 children together, and my dad had other children in other cities who he has never met. Irresponsible, idiotic, indescribable stupidity. With all that in mind, here are a few questions

6. Is it irresponsible to have more than one child?

7. Should more humans elect the decision to NOT reproduce at all? Keep in mind that every human who decides not to reproduce would still have the option of adopting a child. So for every person who elected not to reproduce, that would be one less person born in the world, and possibly one more parentless child given a family.

I feel if I am going to ask for answers from you all, and to ask that you even bother to read all of this nonsense in the first place, that I should at least have the common decency to give a bit more information on my own views. Given the atmosphere of this thread, you can probably guess somewhat accurately where I stand on all of these subjects.

Believe it or not I am a romantic. It's just that I've grown up, I've had a relationship or two, and although I still remain naively hopeful that I will find "the one", I recognize this hope for what it is - a silly pipe dream. You can make it happen if you want. You can wife up some girl, but what is that worth really? You could have just as easily chosen the other girl on the block.

Personally I have elected not to have children in my life. For all I know, I might live long enough to see the world go to Absolute Crap. I would not want to unleash that possibility on another soul nor would I want to contribute at all to The Machine

Maybe I'm just a bitter, lonely virgin, but these are some of the questions that are troubling me. If you read all of this, thank you. If you answer any of these questions, thanks again.

And I apologize for my terrible writing, my horrible composition form, and my idiotic ramblings.
LordOdysseus
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#2 - 2015-05-27 02:27:30 UTC
First and foremost,
I don't think your writings are terrible,nor horrible,nor idiotic.

Your questions are legitimate as there are no such thing as stupid questions.

These issues are discussed in a book series written by Neale Donald Walsch called "Conversations With God".I strongly recommend everyone who ask these questions to read it ( I had the same questions in my head until I read the trilogy and got some answers).

I'm not religious anymore but I still have a sense of what is right,what is wrong and what simply is.

My opinion on the 6th question is YES with capital,72pt letters.I know many people who believe the world is going to the dogs yet still reproduce.My mind simply boggles at that logic(or the lack of it).

I personally believe that whatever you sow,you reap.Whatever actions you take,there is a butterfly effect reaching the most distant corners of the world.So I do my best to act wisely so I can create the world as I want it.

This is all I have to say for now.

Have a wonderful morning,
/LordO
Falken Falcon
#3 - 2015-05-27 07:14:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Falken Falcon
I got nothing better to do and this seems interesting enough for me so i'll go ahead and try to answer.. I might even learn something here Smile

Ares Desideratus wrote:
1. What is love?

2. What is the point of being in a monogamous relationship, if your partner has already had sex with other men or women, probably many times? Why do people feel the need to be with "one person" when that person has already been thoroughly penetrated? Also bear in mind that you will most likely not spend your life with one person, why do so many people cling helplessly to this sort of pipe dream??
[Mandatory Baby don't hurt me]

How i've seen love is that it is a system programmed to every human to ensure the best possible setup and survival chance for the offspring by the two parents to staying together long enough for them to protect and teach the child all mandatory and if possible non-mandatory survival skills.

Studies have shown that the more parters your other has had, the more likely he/she will stay with you as he/she does not have the need to explore or see if the grass is greener.

Ares Desideratus wrote:

3. Are we as humans, in truth, destroying the planet we live on? If so, just how much destruction do you think we have managed to do to our environment? Is it too late to turn back? Are there ways to save us as a species?

4. If you answered yes / yes / no to the above questions, do you think that space travel and / or the colonization of other planets can save humanity from the pollutions and infections we have created, or will we be long gone before we even get that chance?

There is still time to save earth and avoid venus 2. The issue is that most people can't see more than 5 meters in front of them, but if we would now stop developing more eco friendly stuff we're boned. Most likely when people are actually starting to see the effects things will change more rapidly. More nuclear and re-newable power generation, less coal and oil power plants that do **** tons of pollution = yay.
Ares Desideratus wrote:

5. Do you think that I am way off base in these descriptions? Am I overreacting? Am I reading too much bullshit? Is global warming just a myth?
Not a myth but still very much

Human Relationships And The Apocalypse

The dumbest people are the ones who always have the most babies. People pump out units without even thinking about it before hand, basically just because they were horny. I've seen it first hand because I am a product of this selfish idiocy. My parents had 5 children together, and my dad had other children in other cities who he has never met. Irresponsible, idiotic, indescribable stupidity. With all that in mind, here are a few questions

6. Is it irresponsible to have more than one child?

7. Should more humans elect the decision to NOT reproduce at all? Keep in mind that every human who decides not to reproduce would still have the option of adopting a child. So for every person who elected not to reproduce, that would be one less person born in the world, and possibly one more parentless child given a family.


Honestly if overpopulation starts being a problem (That it will soon™). Me and my friend have been thinking of the life token system. Everyone will have a life token. That token means that you can produce one child and one couple can obviously do two childs max. Unless someone donates one of their tokens to them. Once a child has been born and registered, both parents will lose ½ tokens. Those tokens can't be sold only donated. Min token usage age is 20 and max is 45. Adpoting will also consume a token.

And those who choose not to reproduce should. There are people who operate solely on emotion and ignore the stuff coming from their left.

And it is good to see that people are thinking about this stuff Smile

Aye, Sea Turtles

Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-05-27 07:19:58 UTC
Nice. I like this. So here's my contribution:

1. Love is the brain's most intense reaction to another person. It has both a chemical/physiological and non-physiological component. From a non-science based perspective, love is a societal construct designed predominantly to provide a rationale and driving-mechanism for the institution of marriage - which is a core aspect of human civilization.

2. There is no point, in and of itself. Monogamy brings a sense of stability to people's lives. Many people do not cope well with the sedentary stability of monogamy, but marry due to internal, familial and/or societal pressures. On that latter point, monogamy, which generally leads to marriage once a person has reached a certain maturity level is, again, a societal construct. As marriage brings stability to an individual's life, it also creates a larger, societal stability. Mankind is best organized in small groups. Those small groups can then further combine into communities, cities and, eventually, nations. Without the small organization, the larger one cannot function. Much like complex organisms (humans and pretty much all animals), the body is just a combination of many, independent systems which, when working in concert, enable life. Civilization is no different.

3. Yes, we are destroying our planet. How much damage we have done is impossible to truly measure. It is important to note that planets/ecosystems go through normal cycles. Today, we are in the midst of a warming trend. Is this solely because of mankind? No. Have we contributed to that warming trend? Perhaps made it come faster or be more extreme? Yes and yes. We are poisoning our environment by polluting our air, oceans and the very ground we live on. There will be consequences of that in the long term. The only question is how extreme those consequences will be.

It is not too late to turn back. We can change our way of life and, in essence, stop the damage we are doing. The important point is that, given today's technology, we are unable to reverse the damage we've done. By way of analogy: We've chopped off an arm. We can't get the arm back, but we can stop the bleeding.

Saving us as a species presupposes that we acknowledge we need saving. Most of humanity may pay lip service to this point, but their idea of saving comes in the form of god. That is not the sort of absolution we require. That will have to come on a far grander level, one we are not even capable of understanding, much less putting into effect.

4. Space travel is not within the realm of possibility right now. We are likely a century or more from even being able to colonize another planet within our own star system. Even then, that colony will be a scientific expedition, rather than a true home. We lack the technology required to embark into deep space. We're not even yet able to identify with any degree of certainty exoplanets that would be capable of supporting human life.

In essence, a space-faring humanity is for science fiction movies. It's not even a distant possibility yet. Will we be here to experience it? Probably. The real question is how many of us will be left to reach that point and what will those humans be like.

5. These questions are pure mental masturbation, but fun to think about/discuss.

Anyone that thinks global warming is a myth should find the nearest cliff and jump right off it.

6. Irresponsible? Not necessarily. Most humans should procreate at all - their gene pool should stop with them.

7. Yes. See answer to #6.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2015-05-27 08:31:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
tl,dr OP secretly hopes for the apocalypse to happen so he can finally get laid.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-05-27 09:27:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
The apocalypse is derived from a greek word meaning revelation and refers to different levels of awareness, more or less spiritual. It does not necessary mean the "end of the world" but the end to spiritual ignorance. Doesn't stop various social engineering institution to make full use of its literary shock effect, as described in various, metaphor rich, religious or mystical texts.

There are people who wonder what is life, people who wonder what is the purpose of life and people who do not wonder at all, all happening in some sort of conscious limbo, hermetically sewed by instincts, limited language and stereotypes. And most those who wonder stop to a conclusion comfortable to their reasoning and conditioned by notions learned not experienced...

Sadly the only thing that motivates people to empathize is pain, in different doses and degrees, from "it's not fun until somebody gets hurt" upwards on the stairway to broken heartedness and wishful drifting/thinking. The questions you ask are of course rhetorical, maybe the whole idea of love is a reminiscence of an in utero memory for the first sensations awareness of belonging... nobody knows how reality/awareness is scaling and mirrors/is mirrored beyond the morphic reality of a body adapted to live in this world, so no answers would do.

We all assume, presume and avidly hope for a comfortable answer or resolve but it's only hope.... maybe people aware enough to ask themselves existential questions do not belong in this world at all so naturally and dumbly, the brainless, the insensitive and the ruthless breed and prevail.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2015-05-27 12:15:36 UTC
Ok, enough with the sarcasm and snark, I will address a question you had:

Ares Desideratus wrote:


Why do people feel the need to be with "one person" when that person has already been thoroughly penetrated?


That is a question you best ask.. I dunno, your parents?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-05-27 14:07:28 UTC
LordOdysseus wrote:
First and foremost,
I don't think your writings are terrible,nor horrible,nor idiotic.

Your questions are legitimate as there are no such thing as stupid questions.

These issues are discussed in a book series written by Neale Donald Walsch called "Conversations With God".I strongly recommend everyone who ask these questions to read it ( I had the same questions in my head until I read the trilogy and got some answers).

I'm not religious anymore but I still have a sense of what is right,what is wrong and what simply is.

My opinion on the 6th question is YES with capital,72pt letters.I know many people who believe the world is going to the dogs yet still reproduce.My mind simply boggles at that logic(or the lack of it).

I personally believe that whatever you sow,you reap.Whatever actions you take,there is a butterfly effect reaching the most distant corners of the world.So I do my best to act wisely so I can create the world as I want it.

This is all I have to say for now.

Have a wonderful morning,
/LordO

Thank you sir. I love to read so I will give those books a shot asap. I tend not to believe in anything, but karma really does seem to be a force, almost like a part of the natural order or something.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-05-27 14:20:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ares Desideratus
Falken Falcon wrote:
I got nothing better to do and this seems interesting enough for me so i'll go ahead and try to answer.. I might even learn something here Smile

[Mandatory Baby don't hurt me]

And it is good to see that people are thinking about this stuff Smile

I knew that was going to happen when I wrote it lol, sure enough there it is ... Baby Don't Hurt Me, No More

Thank you for all the answers, they were clear and they made sense. I like the idea of a Life Token, although I dislike the idea of ******* with people's freedoms, it could end up being a necessity.

Oh yeah and this part

Quote:
And those who choose not to reproduce should. There are people who operate solely on emotion and ignore the stuff coming from their left.

I just want to make sure I understand you here. Do you mean that someone who chooses not to reproduce should instead choose to reproduce?

Or that a person who chooses not to reproduce is right and should stick to their guns and not reproduce at all?
Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#10 - 2015-05-27 15:41:08 UTC
Iv'e had many "the ones" and at the end of the day you need to find the one that let's you be who you are and loves you for that and will support your goals and interests.

Monogamous relationships are not a necessity nor are they linked to "true love", some of the closest couples I know come from "swinger" relationships.
The trust and openness/lack of jealousy is something that I can admire but would not personally want (unless we are talking a all fem and me situation :p ).

6. People should only be allowed to have one child each.
I.e. A couple should only have 2 children, 1 to replace each person.
What a lot of people don't know despite it being publicized and some of the greatest nature biologists and scientists of our time documenting it is overpopulation.

4. I truly believe the stupid massively outweigh the rational and the clever in this world so I don't imagine there is much hope for this planet.
So yes space colonization FTW, although I doubt we will ever get to see it remotely in it's true glory.

But ultimately it is all futile, the very fabric of our expanding universe is being stretched to ripping point and our stars are burning out.
And if that isn't bad enough some believe our universe could collide with another universe at any moment destroying us both and creating a new big bang.

Sometimes I think it would be easier to just believe in god and his divine plan, but then I see all the ****** things that happen in this world and realize that no one is that much of an ass hole.


Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-05-27 15:43:13 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Nice. I like this. So here's my contribution:

1. Love is the brain's most intense reaction to another person. It has both a chemical/physiological and non-physiological component. From a non-science based perspective, love is a societal construct designed predominantly to provide a rationale and driving-mechanism for the institution of marriage - which is a core aspect of human civilization.

2. There is no point, in and of itself. Monogamy brings a sense of stability to people's lives. Many people do not cope well with the sedentary stability of monogamy, but marry due to internal, familial and/or societal pressures. On that latter point, monogamy, which generally leads to marriage once a person has reached a certain maturity level is, again, a societal construct. As marriage brings stability to an individual's life, it also creates a larger, societal stability. Mankind is best organized in small groups. Those small groups can then further combine into communities, cities and, eventually, nations. Without the small organization, the larger one cannot function. Much like complex organisms (humans and pretty much all animals), the body is just a combination of many, independent systems which, when working in concert, enable life. Civilization is no different.

3. Yes, we are destroying our planet. How much damage we have done is impossible to truly measure. It is important to note that planets/ecosystems go through normal cycles. Today, we are in the midst of a warming trend. Is this solely because of mankind? No. Have we contributed to that warming trend? Perhaps made it come faster or be more extreme? Yes and yes. We are poisoning our environment by polluting our air, oceans and the very ground we live on. There will be consequences of that in the long term. The only question is how extreme those consequences will be.

It is not too late to turn back. We can change our way of life and, in essence, stop the damage we are doing. The important point is that, given today's technology, we are unable to reverse the damage we've done. By way of analogy: We've chopped off an arm. We can't get the arm back, but we can stop the bleeding.

Saving us as a species presupposes that we acknowledge we need saving. Most of humanity may pay lip service to this point, but their idea of saving comes in the form of god. That is not the sort of absolution we require. That will have to come on a far grander level, one we are not even capable of understanding, much less putting into effect.

4. Space travel is not within the realm of possibility right now. We are likely a century or more from even being able to colonize another planet within our own star system. Even then, that colony will be a scientific expedition, rather than a true home. We lack the technology required to embark into deep space. We're not even yet able to identify with any degree of certainty exoplanets that would be capable of supporting human life.

In essence, a space-faring humanity is for science fiction movies. It's not even a distant possibility yet. Will we be here to experience it? Probably. The real question is how many of us will be left to reach that point and what will those humans be like.

5. These questions are pure mental ************, but fun to think about/discuss.

Anyone that thinks global warming is a myth should find the nearest cliff and jump right off it.

6. Irresponsible? Not necessarily. Most humans should procreate at all - their gene pool should stop with them.

7. Yes. See answer to #6.

Thank you sir. By the way, there are a surprising amount of people who have no idea what global warming is, they just kind of make moronic assumptions about it based off of no actual information other than stepping outside on a cold day and saying, "global warming? Bull Crap! It's way too cold for that!"

Or they hear about global warming, then they hear about a possible ice age and come to the conclusion that the two will simply cancel each other out.

Or they just write the whole thing off as fear propaganda.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-05-27 15:57:09 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
tl,dr OP secretly hopes for the apocalypse to happen so he can finally get laid.

The thing is I could get laid if I wanted. I am a very beautiful man but my problem is with the mental aspect of everything. I don't like doing what I'm supposed to do, I don't like doing what I'm told. I refuse to play the game of life the way that most people play it and subsequently I refuse to play the game of "catch a female" the way that most males do. Am I supposed to put on some sort of show, an act, to get a woman's attention? Am I supposed to go out of my way to try and convince a woman to suck me off?

It's been years for me and I am going to have to get laid soon because, well it would probably be good for me. But it's going to be on my own terms, I am not going to sell out just for some poon.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#13 - 2015-05-27 17:11:27 UTC
Oh, jeez!
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-05-27 17:32:14 UTC
Gimme Sake wrote:
The apocalypse is derived from a greek word meaning revelation and refers to different levels of awareness, more or less spiritual. It does not necessary mean the "end of the world" but the end to spiritual ignorance. Doesn't stop various social engineering institution to make full use of its literary shock effect, as described in various, metaphor rich, religious or mystical texts.

There are people who wonder what is life, people who wonder what is the purpose of life and people who do not wonder at all, all happening in some sort of conscious limbo, hermetically sewed by instincts, limited language and stereotypes. And most those who wonder stop to a conclusion comfortable to their reasoning and conditioned by notions learned not experienced...

Sadly the only thing that motivates people to empathize is pain, in different doses and degrees, from "it's not fun until somebody gets hurt" upwards on the stairway to broken heartedness and wishful drifting/thinking. The questions you ask are of course rhetorical, maybe the whole idea of love is a reminiscence of an in utero memory for the first sensations awareness of belonging... nobody knows how reality/awareness is scaling and mirrors/is mirrored beyond the morphic reality of a body adapted to live in this world, so no answers would do.

We all assume, presume and avidly hope for a comfortable answer or resolve but it's only hope.... maybe people aware enough to ask themselves existential questions do not belong in this world at all so naturally and dumbly, the brainless, the insensitive and the ruthless breed and prevail.

Thank you for this.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2015-05-27 17:36:52 UTC
Black Panpher wrote:
Iv'e had many "the ones" and at the end of the day you need to find the one that let's you be who you are and loves you for that and will support your goals and interests.

Monogamous relationships are not a necessity nor are they linked to "true love", some of the closest couples I know come from "swinger" relationships.
The trust and openness/lack of jealousy is something that I can admire but would not personally want (unless we are talking a all fem and me situation :p ).

6. People should only be allowed to have one child each.
I.e. A couple should only have 2 children, 1 to replace each person.
What a lot of people don't know despite it being publicized and some of the greatest nature biologists and scientists of our time documenting it is overpopulation.

4. I truly believe the stupid massively outweigh the rational and the clever in this world so I don't imagine there is much hope for this planet.
So yes space colonization FTW, although I doubt we will ever get to see it remotely in it's true glory.

But ultimately it is all futile, the very fabric of our expanding universe is being stretched to ripping point and our stars are burning out.
And if that isn't bad enough some believe our universe could collide with another universe at any moment destroying us both and creating a new big bang.

Sometimes I think it would be easier to just believe in god and his divine plan, but then I see all the ****** things that happen in this world and realize that no one is that much of an ass hole.



Of course the stupid massively outweigh the rational. Other than being glaringly obvious I am sure there are statistics that could prove this point.

Then you have religious people who will tell you that it's not god's fault, it's our fault because He gave us free will. So you're free to do whatever you want, but if you do something God doesn't like you're gonna go to hell to burn forever. Unless you ask for forgiveness. It's a cycle of retardedness.

Thank you.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#16 - 2015-05-27 17:41:36 UTC
Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea but his thread is very cynical and jaded in nature.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-05-27 18:48:46 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea but his thread is very cynical and jaded in nature.

I wouldn't describe it as cynical or jaded, but hey, maybe that's what it is.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#18 - 2015-05-27 20:36:32 UTC
Well, it just seems to me that a lot of your opinions, especially on love and relationships, seem borne out of bad experiences or lack thereof. Relationships, when you have a good one, can be the world. Romantic or not. Romantic relationships just take he intensity up a few notches.

I also don't think the general population is "stupid" per say. Ill informed? Probably. Particularly about big issues like climate change. Doubt is engineered. Bought and paid for by those with stakes in the game. Can you really blame the general population for not knowing how to feel? Being bombarded with opposing views constantly. And, yes...we tend to be short sighted about the future. Like most animals our primary instinct is for the here and the now.

Space is probably in our not too distant future. It if we don't change our ways and our perceptions, we'd just be doomed to repeat the same mistakes and tragedies of contemporary times in a new place or places.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2015-05-27 22:49:23 UTC
I don't think it has anything to do with a lack of experience. I understand how great a relationship can be and I understand as a human being how good it feels to be in a romantic relationship or how good it feels simply to have sex. Most humans are capable of understanding these basic natural feelings. What I mostly have written about here, is the human being's romanticized version of reality. You have religion telling us that it is bad to have premarital sex, and then you have the average person who simply does not care. Yet this same average person wants to be with only one person and while they are with that one person they want their relationship to be monogamous. What I don't understand is why people want monogamous relationships so much if their partner has already been screwed every which way anyway. It makes no sense to me. If I was looking for a one true love she would likely have to be a virgin. Otherwise for me the whole idea kind of falls apart.

Whether most people are stupid or not ... they certainly are. Or maybe I should say "we" certainly are. But it also depends what your definition of stupid is, and what your definition of intelligence or rationality are. The average human would seem quite intelligent if observed in comparison to a chimp. But if observed in comparison to something like a supercomputer or something they would appear ********.

But I mean most people believe that all of our dead ancestors are floating around in the sky somewhere. Humans are dumb as ****.

I realize there are many more sides to the story than this. And these thoughts on relationships are only partial thoughts as there is much more to it than what is written here. I have to go to my gym for a couple hours though, so I will post and read more later.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2015-05-28 01:53:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Sorry, can't go point by point.
-The reason we end up monogamous-- Why not? The other option is to have infinite temporary roommate friends. Some are cool, some have to be erased from your memory. Some won't wash dishes, some will consume your last canned ravioli/beer/bag of weed to 0. No matter. What matters is, everybody in the house is ultimately all looking for the Ultimate Mate. The one you can hang with, expose your soul to, and be appreciated by. And fuss with, like two parakeets in a cage. Nobody has any choice about that--- as fun as it might be, you cannot hang with your roomies forever. "Tomorrow Never Comes" - Creedence Clearwater Revival. No, does not apply.

-Yes, everybody has permission to have more than one child. Why? By not having more than one, did you stop some non-thinking person from having 15? Thinking people, please enjoy your life and pass the wisdom on! Denying yourself a hamburger will not stop an irresponsible person from eating 10 more. If the population in general has an irresponsible selfish mentality, you're not helping things by being a lonely responsible voice.

-Yeah, our poor Earth is wrecked. It can't be fixed by logic, traditional science, or next-generation technology. The 1/3rd of the world that did are just now starting to think about it, but the momentum of instant money-making negates them. And now the other 2/3rds of the world left behind are ready to get their share. Cutting edge physicists are pushing the edges, and bless 'em, governments gave them a little fraction of their budgets for building things. They can increase understanding. but they can't decrease basic irresponsible planet-killing selfishness. The ignorant people won't notice, and the 'leet' will notice, and do everything to try to take care of their tiny percentage of selves.

-"Love" Still undefined, after 30,000 years or so. I love my bearded dragon lizard, and he lives me, in a lizard way. Same for my cichlid fish, in their way, and my dog, cats, kids and wife. There's no defining point, it goes on as you go along. The theme is you look each other in the eye, go back and forth, and say "hello mate, here we go, support to you. Support to me too? I'll take it! High five!"
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