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EVE Gameplay and ... Psychopathy

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Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#81 - 2015-05-28 21:04:17 UTC
Hellois Dawn wrote:
Anyone with any form of psychological training knows

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#82 - 2015-05-28 21:20:50 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
13kr1d1 wrote:
It's no secret that a game where people can act out their sociopathic tendencies will draw such people who either desire to be that way in real life, or want to explore it because they want to feel like one. Either case scares me.


Does that apply to games such as chess, monopoly, football etc. Okay, maybe not the latter.



Depends if you teabag and verbally harrass people you defeat in chess. Blowing people's pixels up is one thing. Wanting to see them cry about it is another.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#83 - 2015-05-29 01:29:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
I think that test is crude and irresponsible, because it's so simple, and it gives instant internet results. Feedback influences people's views of themselves, to whatever degree. Pretty irresponsible to put a short questionnaire out there, let people answer some questions that are positive ("I Agree"), alternating with questions that are in the negative ("I do not Disagree"), and then instantly give them some statistical result. Most countries require a license to perform a psychiatric diagnosis. No?

Bah, internet. Bah, crude questionnaire psychoanalysis. Hell with you, reporting results from a raw arithmetic calculation based on figures from other internet respondents.

(Anecdote: I used to teach a class in a women's fitness gym. One day, Ms. S came in very distressed. She'd just been to a palm reader, astrological charter, or whatever. The reader told her that if she wasn't married by age 26, she would never be able to marry. That gave Ms. S about 8 months to get married. True or not, it put her in process and contemplation. And the whole class too. The reader's information might have be complete crap. But apparently the reader and Ms. S both believed it enough to take in in earnest. It was enough to put a doubt and worry into her mind. To me, that's the same as saying you're "43% more psychopathic than the other internet people who responded," except the reader was more responsible. 20-question psychological analysis-- irresponsible. Rational or not, these things influence who people see themselves).
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#84 - 2015-05-29 01:44:26 UTC
Harrison Tato wrote:
Depends if you teabag and verbally harrass people you defeat in chess. Blowing people's pixels up is one thing. Wanting to see them cry about it is another.


Wanting to see people cry about it and mocking people who are childish enough to cry about it are also two different things.

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13kr1d1
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#85 - 2015-05-29 01:46:08 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
13kr1d1 wrote:
It's no secret that a game where people can act out their sociopathic tendencies will draw such people who either desire to be that way in real life, or want to explore it because they want to feel like one. Either case scares me.


Does that apply to games such as chess, monopoly, football etc. Okay, maybe not the latter.


Chess? No. The goal is to win, not to be vindictive or cruel. There's no room for such emotive play in chess.

Monopoly? Arguably the same thing.

Cruelty is an opportunity cost just like anything else. If there's a bottom line, and it isn't easy to be cruel, then you won't be.

Don't kid yourselves. Even the dirtiest pirates from the birth of EVE have been carebears. They use alts to bring them goods at cheap prices and safely, rather than live with consequences of their in game actions on their main, from concord to prices

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#86 - 2015-05-29 02:01:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
[Sorry, post mechanics misfire. Oops Carry on all of ye newly-diagnosed borderline psychos. Smile]
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2015-05-29 02:11:30 UTC
13kr1d1 wrote:

Cruelty is an opportunity cost just like anything else. If there's a bottom line, and it isn't easy to be cruel, then you won't be.


For some people, cruelty is what they take pains to achieve and spend time on. Your suffering is the payoff. They can do this in any game, the playing of which is a means to an end.
Not necessarily crazies, either, just jerks. Also, sociopaths are different from psychopaths and both are labels.


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Jenshae Chiroptera
#88 - 2015-05-29 02:12:01 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
Depends if you teabag and verbally harrass people you defeat in chess. Blowing people's pixels up is one thing. Wanting to see them cry about it is another.
Wanting to see people cry about it and mocking people who are childish enough to cry about it are also two different things.
A lot less time and effort invested in setting up a chess board.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2015-05-29 02:42:22 UTC
This armchair psychology still going on? Y'all need to stop worrying about what's going on in anyone's head but your own, and play the game. Learn the difference between fiction and reality, and you'll get by just fine.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2015-05-29 02:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
admiral root wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
Depends if you teabag and verbally harrass people you defeat in chess. Blowing people's pixels up is one thing. Wanting to see them cry about it is another.


Wanting to see people cry about it and mocking people who are childish enough to cry about it are also two different things.


This. I don't know why, after all these years, people still choose to ignore this difference. Maybe they just enjoy being vindictive and are reaching for reasons to be so. But no one I know blows you up to make you cry. If you DO cry, though, they're not gonna have any sympathy, and occasionally, in order to highlight how ridiculous it is to cry over pixels, people will mock you for crying with things like, "your tears are delicious".

Now if they were actually drinking your actual tears while you were crying them into a jar or something, that would be creepy. But they're not. It's a figurative comment, one that people take far too seriously.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#91 - 2015-05-29 04:27:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Here we go again. "Digital tears vs. RL tears, there is a difference." OK...

Argument A: "It's just a game. Kilt a casual player guy, the weiner got upset. 'WTF dude, don't get mad. It's just pixel spaceships!'"

Argument B: "nice try. too bad you're not pro and brought that **** fit ship onto the leet field of EVE"

"Just a game" "Intense elite game" "Just a game, why you upset?" "Ha, get out, fail ignorant noob!"
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2015-05-29 08:23:57 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Answering in character - 2.4 Primary, 1.8 Secondary
http://screencast.com/t/Pyv9qLciV6J4
http://screencast.com/t/Az5Dt3LaJbn

Answering out of character - 1.2 Primary, 2.5 Secondary
http://screencast.com/t/z7SAYy4DOA7

Do with that what you will.

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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#93 - 2015-05-29 15:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Harrison Tato
admiral root wrote:
Harrison Tato wrote:
Depends if you teabag and verbally harrass people you defeat in chess. Blowing people's pixels up is one thing. Wanting to see them cry about it is another.


Wanting to see people cry about it and mocking people who are childish enough to cry about it are also two different things.



Not really. I think the big difference is that I was born before 1990 and played competitive sports from age 5 until I went to college. Back then we were taught sportsmenship and that other people's behavior shouldn't determine our own. There were also winners and losers. Everyone didn't get a trophy.
Shimoto
Doomheim
#94 - 2015-05-29 18:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Shimoto
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Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2015-05-30 17:17:41 UTC
Solidly in the 50's
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#96 - 2015-05-30 17:29:35 UTC
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 62.34% of people who have taken this test. - 2.4

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 74.89% of people who have taken this test. - 3.1

So... does that mean I'm not a crazy?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#97 - 2015-05-30 17:34:07 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 62.34% of people who have taken this test. - 2.4

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 74.89% of people who have taken this test. - 3.1

So... does that mean I'm not a crazy?

No. The survey doesn't test crazy.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#98 - 2015-05-30 22:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
the test does one important part wrong, it puts it the way all humans are the same, but they are not... would you scam particular people, would you leave others alone... in the test there is no difference

that said, somebody can be seen as a psychopath in the eyes of some but not in the eyes of others...

I think the real psychopath lie in the good results, because they don't have a problem with the masses but they find particular targets, they would not answer bad in general however they maybe hate just one person

they focus their hate on just one instead of all, I would be much more scared by a guy who tells me he wants to kill this or that guy because of this and that reason, instead of somebody who says I want to kill everybody, guys who want to kill and scam everybody are harmless

thats why most psychopaths are also to be found in families, while all other people like neighbours always think they are nice people... its the focus on just one person who makes a real psychopath do something bad

to sum it up, if you are at 90% level 5, you pretty sure are harmless, however if you are one of those good guys at under 10% level 1, you sure do something bad someday to someone you love probably
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#99 - 2015-05-30 23:32:02 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
molly666trillions
Cyber Chaos Crew
#100 - 2015-06-01 12:24:22 UTC  |  Edited by: molly666trillions
Psychopathy Test wrote:
Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of empathy for others.
Well I just looked at the test and answered all the questions with "neither agree or disagree". Does that mean I'm a psychopath? Hang on, lemme press the results button...

Psychopathy Test wrote:
"You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 75.61% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 71.45% of people who have taken this test."
Next time I'll just answer "Strongly Agree" or "Strongly Disagree" to all of them. I'd rather be a determined psychopath than one that doesn't know what she wants.

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