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New EARTH LIKE planet discovered!

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WhyTry1
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2011-12-05 22:59:40 UTC
For me, this is pretty exciting. But seriously anyon who tries to say there isn't life anywhere else. In this entire universe are stupid!

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/kepler-22b/
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-12-05 23:02:31 UTC
We need to blow it up! Before whatever lives there blows us up!

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Adunh Slavy
#3 - 2011-12-05 23:31:21 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
We need to blow it up! Before whatever lives there blows us up!



Nerf Aliens!

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Jack Cavanaugh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-06 00:23:43 UTC
I hate to be a downer but given current technology a manned craft, which would also have to be self-sufficient for food, water, fuel/energy, waste and maintenance would take about 45 million years to travel the 600 light years which was quoted in the articles about this discovery.

Given optimal speed of an unmanned craft it would take about 5.5 million years to travel the 600 light years, still taking into account fuel/energy and maintenance.
iudex
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-06 00:44:05 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
We need to blow it up! Before whatever lives there blows us up!


I like your attitude Lol
Umega
Solis Mensa
#6 - 2011-12-06 01:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Umega
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
We need to blow it up! Before whatever lives there blows us up!


It might already be blown up! Looking 600 years into the past is a long time, plenty for the ebil inter-galatic Grey corp space blob to have taken all its gold and unleashed unholy rage. We should ask Lucas if he felt a disturbance before we proceed with operation 'Dead fingers can't push buttons'.

Seriously tho, cool find. I'm curious the age of the star to find out how much time the planet has had to evolve.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2011-12-06 01:24:30 UTC
The human race needs new places to go in order to leave the much more weaker "administrative class" behind and grow.

Which is why aliens would stop us dead.

We will have to end the trend of tyranny, slavery, usury, and the usual trappings of humanity BEFORE we head out to the stars lest we bring it with us.

Because then we will have that new planet, in some years, having to send people here to liberate people from the death camps because everybody got stupid and started supporting dictators.

And then, a few generations later, the people on that planet, thinking "It can't happen here", will have the same thing happen but be even more blind to it than the earthlings they saved, and that new planet becomes the wellspring from which tyranny flows, with bases on over 900 other planets and a reserve currency that wrecks the economy of every other planet.

See a pattern here? It goes back 5000 years - from region to region, then to continent to continent, and now planet to planet?

I don't think any advanced races will put up with that - thankfully.

The other reason why they won't let us colonize beyond our own system is because humans will have sex with just about anything.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Umega
Solis Mensa
#8 - 2011-12-06 01:53:53 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
The human race needs new places to go in order to leave the much more weaker "administrative class" behind and grow.

Which is why aliens would stop us dead.

We will have to end the trend of tyranny, slavery, usury, and the usual trappings of humanity BEFORE we head out to the stars lest we bring it with us.

Because then we will have that new planet, in some years, having to send people here to liberate people from the death camps because everybody got stupid and started supporting dictators.

And then, a few generations later, the people on that planet, thinking "It can't happen here", will have the same thing happen but be even more blind to it than the earthlings they saved, and that new planet becomes the wellspring from which tyranny flows, with bases on over 900 other planets and a reserve currency that wrecks the economy of every other planet.

See a pattern here? It goes back 5000 years - from region to region, then to continent to continent, and now planet to planet?

I don't think any advanced races will put up with that - thankfully.

The other reason why they won't let us colonize beyond our own system is because humans will have sex with just about anything.


Maybe live in the sticks of Kansas less, and see the world more?

I'm glad we have some people on Earth that apparently know exactly how other alien races behave and act.. and whether or not they'd 'allow' us to do some things or not without our opinion/choice in the matter. If only our current world leaders and diplomats were so keen on their assumptions on what is correct and right for everybody..

Oh wait a minute..

Nevermind.
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2011-12-06 01:53:53 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We will have to end the trend of tyranny, slavery, usury, and the usual trappings of humanity BEFORE we head out to the stars lest we bring it with us.


I'm more than certain I disagree with him on the specifics, but he's quite right. Human minds obviously do not handle large scale civilization well at all. We need to evolve, biologically or socially, to think along the lines of all being unified as living and sentient beings.

We naturally divide, segregate, and have many mechanisms to narrow the number of people we care about. Social classes, cliques, geographic divides become social ones even with mass communication. Even people working together tend to divide themselves and then cast blame across those divisions when things go wrong, instead of continuing to work together on a problem.

Charges Twilight fans with Ka-bar -Surfin's PlunderBunny LIIIIIIIIIIINNEEEEE PIIIEEEECCCCEEE!!!!!!! -Taedrin Using relativity to irrational numbers is smart -rodyas I no longer believe we landed on the moon. -Atticus Fynch

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-06 02:02:00 UTC
VKhaun Vex wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
We will have to end the trend of tyranny, slavery, usury, and the usual trappings of humanity BEFORE we head out to the stars lest we bring it with us.


I'm more than certain I disagree with him on the specifics, but he's quite right. Human minds obviously do not handle large scale civilization well at all. We need to evolve, biologically or socially, to think along the lines of all being unified as living and sentient beings.

We naturally divide, segregate, and have many mechanisms to narrow the number of people we care about. Social classes, cliques, geographic divides become social ones even with mass communication. Even people working together tend to divide themselves and then cast blame across those divisions when things go wrong, instead of continuing to work together on a problem.


We call that human nature, and it says we'll jump on the first reason we can think of to kill each other.

I will use the Eve community as my citation Pirate

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Alara IonStorm
#11 - 2011-12-06 02:17:51 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
We need to blow it up! Before whatever lives there blows us up!

I <3 the Human Race.
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-06 03:21:29 UTC
Shotgun the north pole of that planet. Make my ice fortress!

I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.

Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
#13 - 2011-12-06 06:18:23 UTC
I haven't quite got my head around the enormity of the age of the universe relative to immediate human comprehension, but isn't the problem with finding sentient life in the universe less to do with distance and rather more to do with the extremely low probability that any flourishing of life is going to happen in the same time period as any other flourishing of life?
Selinate
#14 - 2011-12-06 06:21:07 UTC
Jack Cavanaugh wrote:
I hate to be a downer but given current technology a manned craft, which would also have to be self-sufficient for food, water, fuel/energy, waste and maintenance would take about 45 million years to travel the 600 light years which was quoted in the articles about this discovery.

Given optimal speed of an unmanned craft it would take about 5.5 million years to travel the 600 light years, still taking into account fuel/energy and maintenance.


I think too much is still unknown to say that getting there is completely 100% impossible within a reasonable time frame, but right now, it is pretty laughable to think about the logistics...
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-12-06 07:20:14 UTC
We can only hope that if we find intelligent life we're the ones that find it. When a more advanced society locates a primitive one.... well, look at history. The primitives end up wiped out simply due to being in the presence of awesome Shocked

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Pr1ncess Alia
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-12-06 07:20:44 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

The other reason why they won't let us colonize beyond our own system is because humans will have sex with just about anything.


How do you know that?

For all we know, despite all of our other flaws that might be the very reason they let us colonize beyond our own system. Blink

For the sake of the future of the humanity, if you ever get the opportunity to hook up with an alien, make sure he/she/it get's his/hers/its before you get yours... if you know what I mean.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#17 - 2011-12-06 07:32:18 UTC
Selinate wrote:
Jack Cavanaugh wrote:
I hate to be a downer but given current technology a manned craft, which would also have to be self-sufficient for food, water, fuel/energy, waste and maintenance would take about 45 million years to travel the 600 light years which was quoted in the articles about this discovery.

Given optimal speed of an unmanned craft it would take about 5.5 million years to travel the 600 light years, still taking into account fuel/energy and maintenance.


I think too much is still unknown to say that getting there is completely 100% impossible within a reasonable time frame, but right now, it is pretty laughable to think about the logistics...


When an object with mass may be faster than a massless object (zero mass at rest, i know).. there might very well be a means to reach this planet in under 600+ years.

Hell.. if even reaching light speed is achieved by humans (I don't need a lecture on the compounding issue of mass coupled with increasing speed).. who ever makes the trip will merely blink and be there. Light speed = time stasis.. if you truly want to live forever, there ya go. So while we might skip about our Sun 600 times.. the astronauts abord that photon rocket won't notice a damn thing, nor will they age, when ship dings 299,792,458 m/s till it begins to lose speed on final approach. They won't even need 600 years worth of food and toilet paper.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-12-06 07:43:49 UTC
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

The other reason why they won't let us colonize beyond our own system is because humans will have sex with just about anything.


How do you know that?

For all we know, despite all of our other flaws that might be the very reason they let us colonize beyond our own system. Blink

For the sake of the future of the humanity, if you ever get the opportunity to hook up with an alien, make sure he/she/it get's his/hers/its before you get yours... if you know what I mean.


My intergalactic survival kit is the same as my zombie survival kit. It contains a length of rope, ductape, a bottle of wine, and condoms.

Ready for anything

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny

Jack Cavanaugh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-06 09:34:01 UTC
Umega wrote:
Selinate wrote:
Jack Cavanaugh wrote:
I hate to be a downer but given current technology a manned craft, which would also have to be self-sufficient for food, water, fuel/energy, waste and maintenance would take about 45 million years to travel the 600 light years which was quoted in the articles about this discovery.

Given optimal speed of an unmanned craft it would take about 5.5 million years to travel the 600 light years, still taking into account fuel/energy and maintenance.


I think too much is still unknown to say that getting there is completely 100% impossible within a reasonable time frame, but right now, it is pretty laughable to think about the logistics...


When an object with mass may be faster than a massless object (zero mass at rest, i know).. there might very well be a means to reach this planet in under 600+ years.

Hell.. if even reaching light speed is achieved by humans (I don't need a lecture on the compounding issue of mass coupled with increasing speed).. who ever makes the trip will merely blink and be there. Light speed = time stasis.. if you truly want to live forever, there ya go. So while we might skip about our Sun 600 times.. the astronauts abord that photon rocket won't notice a damn thing, nor will they age, when ship dings 299,792,458 m/s till it begins to lose speed on final approach. They won't even need 600 years worth of food and toilet paper.



Here's a conundrum. How would they do a test flight on a light-speed ship?

When it arrived at it's destination everyone involved in the testing and ye...everyone living on the planet at the time would already be centuries old worm food.
Umega
Solis Mensa
#20 - 2011-12-06 09:46:10 UTC
Jack Cavanaugh wrote:
Here's a conundrum. How would they do a test flight on a light-speed ship?

When it arrived at it's destination everyone involved in the testing and ye...everyone living on the planet at the time would already be centuries old worm food.


Test flight a light speed ship.. obviously a radar gun, cracker jacks, brandy, and a luscious cheese platter.

Takes roughly 7 minutes (I forget, I think 7ish..) for the light from the Sun to reach the Earth. Crap ton of time to run some time dilation checks on a light speed vessel. Fly ship to Sun and back.. stick a clock inside ship, one outside of ship in Earth lab, watch the lights go from red to green, don't get a false start and go.

Test flight done in 14 minutes Earth time. No 'centuries old worm food'.
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