Wormholes

Won't be able to attend but look forward to listening!



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yeah will be on sound cloud or something will most likely end upon fuzzworks

Count me in!

If I can squeak in for this I'd love to join. Thanks!

In case work eats my minion;

1) In highsec, if POSs don't need fuel, they will essentially become permanent. This will then mean infinite proliferation of permanent POSs by one man shitheel corps throughout space, which last forever and can only be removed by wardecs.

Then, if the large structures are too easily ramped up to defendability in any fashion, you couldn't even remove them except via large fleets.

Given there is no loot, or minimal loot, to be gained, no one will risk a POS siege just to kick over the citadel of a 1 man alt corp in highsec.

Is CCP ready to put in a mechanism for removing these from highsec? Like, you know, fuel, starbase charters?

1b) Charters? Y/N still in game?

2)
I am encouraged POSs will defend themselves. However, citadel torps and cruise need tweaks if Caldari POSs will be effective, otherwise they can be completely trolled by anything with an Entosis link

3) Is CCP aware that in limiting gun slots, the Citadel defences will become effectively saturated after the 8th ship? hence why would people not "control the grid" by just saturating it with cheap ships, or indeed Entosis ships?

4) Regarding POS guns, can you confirm that player skills will affect them? if so, which skill? Is starbase defence management going to be the primary skill, or will other skills also come into effect?

5) Can POS guns be shot off?

6) Registering disuiet at the idea of docking games.

7) Just confirming that you can set your POS in w-space to be a freeport, have a market hub, etc? Or can I not charge 100M ISk per core probe to doofuses who get stranded in my C4?

I would like ot join in as well.

I'd like to attend.

Here's a link to the notes I took, and some of the transcribing. It also has a link to the mp3 that I put up on Dropbox. We'll get it hosted somewhere more permanent soon:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OMrkXohZxeMKdG9KGClNcA-56Mj4hajceLw7lSJcsDg/edit

Listening to about the first hour of that was at times painful. Sigh.

On the issue of loot, I really hope the WH model should stay as it is, you destroy the structure, the loot drops after loot fairy/bob takes it's share and the victors take the spoils. No hand holding, k space kinda crap. Yeah having it go to a journal entry that you can then access when you setup a new structure in the wormhole is intriguing but it leave no option to intercept that loot by the victors, which is one of the important motivations of actually kicking over the sandcastle. If you can't handle that then wh space isn't for you and perhaps you should seek k space entertainment.


There was a comment at a point asking about shared hangars. I think one of the CCP devs replies that shared hangars roles should be filled by the corporation entity in and of itself. This shows me that CCP dev really doesn't get "it" as part of not having lived in a ******* wormhole out of a damned POS for an extended period of time.

What we really need in my opinion is a easily configurable x number of hangar tabs, for which a master list to govern accees. SO I can have a hangar to myself and my alts so I don't have to make 20 steps to share stuff with my alts. And then a different hangar with a different list to add access to my good mate Tony and Bill but not Fred cause that guy always steals my core probes. You should eb able to easily copy the list to different structures as needs. And redio the freaking atrocious roles.


On the issue of clones. For the love of all mighty bloody BOB stop going with the idea of any variation to clone in or out of the wormhole. You get poded you are back in kspace, no discussion, end of the line. What would be nice is to have something to be able to switch clones in the wormhole, from the slaved up laser one to the shield hybrids for argument's sake. No cloning in or out. Just no.


I'm sure there's more to talk about in the next hour of the discussion.

Having listened, it is clear that removing the POS ties to moons is basically unworkable barring some kind of brainwave solution.

Citadels not on overview = use combat probes
Combat probes = surprise gone
No probes = Where is structure?
POS's on overview = EZ mode scouting
POS's on system scanner = cluttered
POS's not on system clutter = go to back to top