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Brain study. why people like to pve vs pvp? Science

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Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
#101 - 2015-08-04 15:21:37 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
OP

Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for.


Achievers: Whether it's the isk destroyed value on their killboards or their in-game wallet - a lot of people play just to watch little numbers slowly increase.

Killers: Some enjoy the challenging of themselves against others. Both in what's loosely termed pve: market wars/LP exchange rates/avoiding other players in hostile space - as well as more direct forms of pvp.

Explorers: Flit around from one in-game profession to the next, learning all the mechanics in the game and how they interact with each other out of curiousity.

Socialisers: Enjoy the graphics in this IRC program.

but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2015-08-04 15:25:24 UTC
Eli Apol wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
OP

Look up the Bartle Test. It is the ONLY psychological exam that applies to gamers and gaming, and it will give you the answers you're looking for.


Achievers: Whether it's the isk destroyed value on their killboards or their in-game wallet - a lot of people play just to watch little numbers slowly increase.

Killers: Some enjoy the challenging of themselves against others. Both in what's loosely termed pve: market wars/LP exchange rates/avoiding other players in hostile space - as well as more direct forms of pvp.

Explorers: Flit around from one in-game profession to the next, learning all the mechanics in the game and how they interact with each other out of curiousity.

Socialisers: Enjoy the graphics in this IRC program.


lol, that's actually quite fitting for satire, well done, gave me a giggle.

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Commander Spurty
#103 - 2015-08-04 15:36:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
OP, please note the distinct lack of '+1s' to your original post.

The population here tires greatly of these threads.

What you want to do is question those of you out in NULL as to why you aren't all fighting eachother?

Why would you even entertain politics when you have the warmachine to use without CONCORD getting in the way?

This is a far less explored question and one that has greater implications as to 'what the real problem is'.

If you live in non-NPC space, there is no CONCORD.

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ISD SYAD
ISD Alliance
#104 - 2015-08-04 16:45:25 UTC
Deleted some posts violating rules 2 and 4.

Play nice.

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#105 - 2015-08-04 20:07:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
flakeys wrote:
...I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own.

My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other.

+1

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embrel
BamBam Inc.
#106 - 2015-08-05 11:12:39 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
I am very reasonable.
I am a scientist.
I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite.
I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.

Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud


a scientist in summer school? sounds legit.
Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
#107 - 2015-08-05 11:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Algarion Getz
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.

The reason is simple: ISK/resources for PvP and/or PLEX

Since most PvE in EVE is boring as f***, i doubt that there are many other reasons.

In other games i like PvE because of the story and/or the challenge.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#108 - 2015-08-05 11:29:28 UTC
I just like to win.

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Robertis Olacar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#109 - 2015-08-05 11:31:41 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.



I only do pve for a number of reason:
Life is stressful and I find exploring in Eve relaxing just the process of following the routine.
I don't have the dexterity in my hands to be able to effectively PvP. as in being able to hit keyboard short cuts and all that.

Having said that I enjoy the threat of PvP when I explore, which is way I now mainly do my exploration out side hi sec.
The Threat add's to the immersive feel in the game.

Even tho I can't PvP ( or can't effectively PvP ) for real reasons I don't think the game would be as fun if it weren't a constant threat.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#110 - 2015-08-05 12:06:10 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Okay i dont wanna get in trouble and have this thread abused and turned into offtopic stuff. Please answer reasonabley.

So i havent seen this debate happen on the forums. I tried googling and using the eve search but cant find this thread/topic.

So..


What makes people want to pve?
Is it the "victory against bad guys" appeal?
Is it the "i want to 'finish' the game/beat the game" idea?
Is it the content? Like that its fun?
Is it the commradie of taking down the "boss"?
Is it the "puzzles" like finding right spec, trying out correct techniques?

Any other psychological reasons you can think of?

Please keep this a scientific study that is about pve in eve.


My personal opinions:

-Probably they just want to play the game. PVE and PVP means playing a game, which we do.
-That can't be, since it would be a reason for both PVE and PVP. The other is always the bad guy, after all.
-Probably not.
-Obviously, contrary to many jokes there aren't enough masochists to keep EVE alive otherwise.
-What boss? Do you mean drifters? Sure yes, in group oriented content this probably takes a major role. Otherwise nope.
-This again is a reason for both PVE and PVP.

Uh maybe you should rework your questions if you want this to be "scientific". Half your questions are relevant for both PVE and PVP, you should clean that up if you want your "study" to aim at PVE exclusively. And you don't differentiate between group and solo content, which makes you sound like you don't even know much about PVE except that it exists. Not really a promising sign for your "scientific" study.

Good luck though.
Avvy
Doomheim
#111 - 2015-08-05 12:07:45 UTC
Probably because it's a more relaxing style of play.