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Brain study. why people like to pve vs pvp? Science

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flakeys
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-05-23 08:39:15 UTC
Looking at your killboard i'm sure you can answer those questions yourself carrie.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2015-05-23 08:44:46 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Looking at your killboard i'm sure you can answer those questions yourself carrie.

*PAW* right in the kisser!Big smile

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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#23 - 2015-05-23 08:52:10 UTC
This thread was doomed from the start in regards to its original quest of being scientific due to a lack of definitions.

An early step in researching stuff is defining stuff; what IS stuff?

How do you define "PvP"? If I say one thing about PvP and you say another; how do you know we actually (dis)agree if we don't know exactly what it is were talking about? Were we even discussing the same thing?
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2015-05-23 09:05:35 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
This thread was doomed from the start in regards to its original quest of being scientific due to a lack of definitions.

An early step in researching stuff is defining stuff; what IS stuff?

How do you define "PvP"? If I say one thing about PvP and you say another; how do you know we actually (dis)agree if we don't know exactly what it is were talking about? Were we even discussing the same thing?


Thats why some ppl say this is just a covered up superiority thread.

Why PvE?

NPCs are no griefers.
NPCs are no luckers who are smartassing and try to tell how great they are.
NPCs do not try to sell you that PvE is better than PvP.
NPCs are no humans, so there are no idiots you have to struggle with.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-05-23 09:13:42 UTC
There are people who don't like to PvP, of course. But PvE is fast boring, especially alone.
So why PvE then ?
To finance your PvP, you need to earn money, and earning enough money only by PvPing is not so simple. => PvE.
I'm always laughing when someone serves me the "Risk vs Reward" song : There are very few risks when PvEing in High Sec or Nullbearland and the rewards are huge. There are huge risks to lose money while PvPing and the reward when you win is in average meh.
flakeys
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-05-23 09:22:11 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Looking at your killboard i'm sure you can answer those questions yourself carrie.

*PAW* right in the kisser!Big smile



Nah he's gonna come with 'lol this is my forum alt' , 'lol i allways fly logi' or something like that .It's how it allways goes, i'd love it if one of these days someone posting anti-pve would also have some trackrecord of actually being a pvp'er.

What dreams may come , i guess ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys
Doomheim
#27 - 2015-05-23 09:27:44 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Tao Dolcino wrote:
There are people who don't like to PvP, of course. But PvE is fast boring, especially alone.
.



I know a lot of people who even after 10years still enjoy eve pve massively and yes that includes mining , and even though they have tried pvp through the years multiple times they still don't see any fun in it.I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own.

My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#28 - 2015-05-23 09:30:33 UTC
I pvp for fun.
I pve for isk.
When I started I thought pve was fun.
I tried all sorts of different types of it, as so much was interesting to me.
Mining and industry were so complex I was immediately drawn to them.
I could build stuff!
I ran missions to buy shiny things I wanted, but I'm terrible at managing my finances so I usually spent as much as I made.
After a couple of years each type of pve that I engaged in slowly became less and less fun.
I branched out and put up my own POS so I could broaden my options when it came to industry... and went a little crazy with invention and building T2 thingies.
Eventually maintaining it and gathering stuff became tedious... you can only mine up so many battleships and battlecruisers before the rocks start whispering sweet sweet nothing in your ear about murdering your fellow man.
I almost quit because it was starting to feel like a part time job.

Now I sometimes make ISK from pvp, but the truth is that I generally operate at a loss.
I sometimes pve, but usually on an alt as the killboards are littered with really good reasons to be extra careful when missioning during wartime.
I still suck at managing my finances, but I don't care as much anymore now that I've accepted that I personally would rather have fun than make ISK.
Others have their own reasons for playing the way they want to, and they are perfectly valid. I'm just providing my own.

Also, there are no griefers. They're all playing minecraft.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-05-23 09:40:26 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
There are people who don't like to PvP, of course. But PvE is fast boring, especially alone.
.



I know a lot of people who even after 10years still enjoy eve pve massively and yes that includes mining , and even though they have tried pvp through the years multiple times they still don't see any fun in it.I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own.

My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other.


Don't get me wrong, i understand that and i fully agree. But IF you want to PvP, you need to finance it with PvE, that was my point. And if you don't enjoy to PvE, then it's just a chore you still need to cope with, because PvP is a sport for the rich, as soon as you fly something else than a T1 frigate.
The forum PvPers should not be so scornful and conceited, true, but maybe shouldn't you be so touchy, Sir.
beakerax
Pator Tech School
#30 - 2015-05-23 09:40:29 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Nah he's gonna come with 'lol this is my forum alt'

well, in fairness, it is

let me introduce you to the amusing hobby of Carriespotting
flakeys
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-05-23 09:59:29 UTC
Tao Dolcino wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Tao Dolcino wrote:
There are people who don't like to PvP, of course. But PvE is fast boring, especially alone.
.



I know a lot of people who even after 10years still enjoy eve pve massively and yes that includes mining , and even though they have tried pvp through the years multiple times they still don't see any fun in it.I know for a lot of people it is hard to acknowledge other people's enjoyment can be in complete contrast with their own.

My friends playstyle is in contrast with my own , but i never tried to pull them to my way of playing because i do understand that what is fun for one person is pure missery for the other.


Don't get me wrong, i understand that and i fully agree. But IF you want to PvP, you need to finance it with PvE, that was my point. And if you don't enjoy to PvE, then it's just a chore you still need to cope with, because PvP is a sport for the rich, as soon as you fly something else than a T1 frigate.
The forum PvPers should not be so scornful and conceited, true, but maybe shouldn't you be so touchy, Sir.



Haha if you think that's me being touchy mate then you are way offBlink.I don't get touchy that often, at times i do , but not this time and surely not in a carrietroll thread Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-05-23 10:01:59 UTC
I am very reasonable.
I am a scientist.
I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite.
I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.

Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud
flakeys
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-05-23 10:04:54 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
I am very reasonable.
I am a scientist.
I dont understand jive at my killboard? 2.1b kills to under 40mill in losses? Thats pretty elite.
I dont get it. Saying im not very active? That has been true i havent been of any of my badass pvpers lately due to summer school and work and my sexy girlfriend and some other important things. I was way more active few months ago, shall be again soon.

Keep up the good experimentation guys, i am proud



I heard she deflated a few weeks ago ... ordered yourself a new one ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-05-23 10:11:16 UTC
My girlfriend is sexy and pretty smart. She is older than me too.
You are being touchy and i pvp/ruin peoples day with the best of them, just spread it out and anyways have been bogged down recently.
I do not pve at all though that is why i ask.
I have isk stored up from prior gaming experiences and prior pvp actions. ...
Solecist Punk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-05-23 10:48:19 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
My girlfriend is sexy and pretty smart. She is older than me too.
You are being touchy and i pvp/ruin peoples day with the best of them, just spread it out and anyways have been bogged down recently.
I do not pve at all though that is why i ask.
I have isk stored up from prior gaming experiences and prior pvp actions. ...

Are you sure your mom won't find it offensive if you call her your "girlfriend" ?

Or are we talking about famous Jill ?
You know Jill, right ?

Everyone know's Jill !
She's, like, uhm, the right hand of everyone !
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#36 - 2015-05-23 10:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: malcovas Henderson
Eve Solecist wrote:
Wait ... PvPers are unflexible ?

Okay you mean combat pilots, right ?


And how does that compare to miners and mission runners ?
The most flexible people in space, right ?

That's hilarious trolling right there.



OI!!!!! I resent that remark

imma miner and I taught you, a PvPer (a good one at that) a Cat can splode an Itty V on gate.

/flex(able) go me :)


OT confidence and skill, keep most PvE'ers away from PvP
Solecist Punk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-05-23 11:07:03 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:
Wait ... PvPers are unflexible ?

Okay you mean combat pilots, right ?


And how does that compare to miners and mission runners ?
The most flexible people in space, right ?

That's hilarious trolling right there.



OI!!!!! I resent that remark

imma miner and I taught you, a PvPer (a good one at that) a Cat can splode an Itty V on gate.

/flex(able) go me :)


OT confidence and skill, keep most PvE'ers away from PvP


YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!

Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ?
We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !

Already have a concept worked out !

I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ...
... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D


Right ?? :D
malcovas Henderson
THoF
#38 - 2015-05-23 11:15:11 UTC
Solecist Punk wrote:


YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!

Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ?
We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !

Already have a concept worked out !

I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ...
... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D


Right ?? :D


I would love to, but I am travelling very early tomoz. 4am.

PvP is run on tears, and the PvE community are positively full of tears, ripe for harvesting. Go forth and abuse the carebears with my blessing.

o7
Solecist Punk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2015-05-23 11:24:49 UTC
malcovas Henderson wrote:
Solecist Punk wrote:


YOU KILLED A NOOB YOU MONSTER !!!!!!

Hey, wanna go kill people in masses later today ?
We can mock them endlessly with our superiority until their heads explode !

Already have a concept worked out !

I believe that, when big game companies can abuse the issues of those who can't fight for themselves ...
... then why shouldn't I as player of the best MMO out there not do the same thing ? :D


Right ?? :D


I would love to, but I am travelling very early tomoz. 4am.

PvP is run on tears, and the PvE community are positively full of tears, ripe for harvesting. Go forth and abuse the carebears with my blessing.

o7


Please call them accurately "people who do not defend themselves".

That's much better than carebear and way more precise !
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2015-05-23 11:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
malcovas Henderson wrote:
PvP is run on tears


No it ain't.
Maybe for some is...

Its like sports:
Some do it cause they love fair competition and can even have fun loosing.

And then there are the others, more pathetic ones, that want to win so hard, that they cover their handycaps with cheats and doping.

malcovas Henderson wrote:
PvP is run on tears

Oh, and why would one need tears of others?

Need to compensate something?

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."