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Dev Blog: Textures, Shaders, and Dirt, Oh My!

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Valterra Craven
#161 - 2015-05-27 00:14:54 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Dangeresque Too wrote:
So the online ship viewer that lets us pick any ship with any color combo... or the session at fanfest where the dev was asking people to pick ships/colors and rendering them on the spot... guess it really is too difficult and time consuming to set up a new SKIN.


The slow part of writing a novel isn't the typing. :)


You're "write". Its thinking of an idea worth writing about. Players told you the exact book they wanted. You wrote something else entirely. Shouldn't be surprised about the complaints.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#162 - 2015-05-27 03:07:55 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2015-05-27 03:53:51 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:


As for "refusing to give us the shiny new colors we asked for," I recommend keeping an eye on future SKIN announcements rather than assuming that we can simply snap our fingers, like magic, and wish instantly new SKINs into being. If only it were that simple.


Well do please explain it to us and give us some info about it.
Starting with the DevBlog we were promised 3 weeks ago.
Than we might not have to assume so much.
Thanks
Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#164 - 2015-05-27 04:19:19 UTC
How about we fix this part of the Minmatar problem first: https://puu.sh/i23uM/22ffd55aaf.png
..before we worry about rust and dirt?
Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#165 - 2015-05-27 04:31:34 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:

So the medium setting without dirt will be cleaner than the current look which has dirt? That is worth being thankful for.


Medium looks 10x better than High currently, at least in my opinion.

Comparison shot of the Leopard, "Medium" on the left, "High" on the right.
Proof, at least to me, that the rust/dirt layer is not welcome or helpful: https://puu.sh/i2464/22623283b9.png
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2015-05-27 04:49:24 UTC
I wonder how many other ships are a different color than I thought they were.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#167 - 2015-05-27 07:57:56 UTC
http://imgur.com/a/zuH5Y

I get it... I want to like it... I just...

Say, when do we get the Domi redesign?

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#168 - 2015-05-27 19:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Krell Kroenen
Louanne Barros wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:

So the medium setting without dirt will be cleaner than the current look which has dirt? That is worth being thankful for.


Medium looks 10x better than High currently, at least in my opinion.

Comparison shot of the Leopard, "Medium" on the left, "High" on the right.
Proof, at least to me, that the rust/dirt layer is not welcome or helpful: https://puu.sh/i2464/22623283b9.png


I have to agree, I will have to change my settings when I get home and try it myself. If I can be buggered to login that is.Blink
Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#169 - 2015-05-27 22:42:09 UTC
I'll stop ranting about this now, I promise.. but speaking of ships that I think look much better in 'Medium' mode, here is the Fed Navy Atron:
https://puu.sh/i2YTD/8e35db9361.png
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#170 - 2015-05-27 23:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Darwin
Rain6637 wrote:
Say, when do we get the Domi redesign?

I can't really give you a firm date, but I do know that this has been getting some renewed attention lately, now that a lot of our lighting and shading rework has settled down.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#171 - 2015-05-27 23:58:21 UTC
Yeah, don't tell the ISDs, but I was just teasing. I figured it got scheduled behind the block of work that is V5++

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President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#172 - 2015-05-28 01:19:07 UTC
The domi redesign. The unicorn in the room.

Yaay!!!!
Memphis Baas
#173 - 2015-05-28 02:38:49 UTC
Shh don't give them ideas, or they'll put an Incursus-like rod right on the potato-like forehead of the Dominix, and make it shoot fireworks non-stop.
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#174 - 2015-05-28 03:00:39 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Shh don't give them ideas, or they'll put an Incursus-like rod right on the potato-like forehead of the Dominix, and make it shoot fireworks non-stop.

Wait, where's my notebook???

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
thowlimer
Roprocor Ltd
#175 - 2015-05-28 08:00:05 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Shh don't give them ideas, or they'll put an Incursus-like rod right on the potato-like forehead of the Dominix, and make it shoot fireworks non-stop.

Wait, where's my notebook???


To bad Aprils 1'st is so far away, would be hilarious if you did this for that Big smile
Castelo Selva
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#176 - 2015-05-28 11:53:04 UTC
Well, I have to agree with Louanne Barros. If the only difference between the high and medium quality are the dirt layer, I am just turn down all my setting to medium. For me, the undirt ship are better than the dirt ones. Of course that is my personal view.

So, just to be exactly clear, the dirt layer are really the ONLY difference between medium and high setting, right?

Best post ever!
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#177 - 2015-05-28 12:48:26 UTC
Castelo Selva wrote:
So, just to be exactly clear, the dirt layer are really the ONLY difference between medium and high setting, right?

As of today, right now, yes. I cannot promise that that will not change (possibly without notice) in the future.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2015-05-28 13:32:00 UTC
Louanne Barros wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:

So the medium setting without dirt will be cleaner than the current look which has dirt? That is worth being thankful for.


Medium looks 10x better than High currently, at least in my opinion.

Comparison shot of the Leopard, "Medium" on the left, "High" on the right.
Proof, at least to me, that the rust/dirt layer is not welcome or helpful: https://puu.sh/i2464/22623283b9.png


I dunno. It's preference, I guess, but I like the more muted colors with the rust/dirt layer applied. I've never liked spaceships that are too bright and shiny - they look unused. If I could add a battlescars layer to mine, I would.

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Yukimisama
Deviant Dollyz
#179 - 2015-05-28 20:12:27 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXHZlqp3X6U

^Looks amazing guys, don't let up for sure, this is a huge step up in the graphics/programing/logistics of this type of rollout from you all at CCP, couldn't be more excited to be just finding this universe at a time like this! Thanks again for all the hard work and imagination!

In My World...
Shinzhi Xadi
Doomheim
#180 - 2015-05-28 20:54:54 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Castelo Selva wrote:
So, just to be exactly clear, the dirt layer are really the ONLY difference between medium and high setting, right?

As of today, right now, yes. I cannot promise that that will not change (possibly without notice) in the future.


I think the change from medium to high is a teeny bit more than that somehow. While running missions in amarr space with some very bright cloud effects, the entire back ground went solid white. The brackets, overview and my ship was still there, just the background was solid white. Wiggling and zooming my camera around cleared it up. I have never, ever had this happen before, and the only thing I changed was I tried medium shader to see my ship clean.

Mac Pro dual 6-core Xeon 3.06ghz, 24gig ecc ram, EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, Intel SSD, OS X Yosemite and Windows 8.1 Pro.