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Dev Blog: Signing up to Rule Alliance Tournament XIII

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Big Lynx
#21 - 2015-05-21 05:25:09 UTC
AT Price Ships?
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#22 - 2015-05-21 07:17:05 UTC
ETA on duality, pls!

Winner ATXI , 3rd place ATXII, winner ATXIII, 2nd ATXIV - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#23 - 2015-05-21 11:17:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Eraza
Sniper Smith wrote:
T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly.


I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this?
T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2?
Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases.

Why no T2 drones?

--A drone lover
Torgeir Hekard
I MYSELF AND ME
#24 - 2015-05-21 12:57:59 UTC
Why are bombers cheaper than covops frigs?

One could guess it's the midslots, but if you need cheap medslots, you can use a heron. Not to mention unbonused ewar won't be that useful without scripts.
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2015-05-21 16:02:29 UTC
Eraza wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly.


I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this?
T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2?
Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases.

Why no T2 drones?

--A drone lover

Hi,

rewatch the last two years of tourney and tell me again if you want a drone meta like the previous years? NOPE. Shake things up!

Thanks
everyone

Winner ATXI , 3rd place ATXII, winner ATXIII, 2nd ATXIV - follow me on twitter: @ForlornW

Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#26 - 2015-05-21 17:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Eraza
Forlorn Wongraven wrote:
Eraza wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
T1 Drones only? No T2, Faction, or Augmented.. That's just silly.


I have to agree and ask, what is the reason for this?
T2 drones should not be too expensive for anyone, and integrated are usually cheaper than tech 2?
Also faction ammo is allowed, which can easily exceed the cost of T2 drones in many cases.

Why no T2 drones?

--A drone lover

Hi,

rewatch the last two years of tourney and tell me again if you want a drone meta like the previous years? NOPE. Shake things up!

Thanks
everyone


Cant quite be assed to RE-watch it, it's VERY long(I wouldnt be able to answer you for a week), however, I watch the AT every year, and see the same problem occuring again and again.
The theorycrafters working at the team setups find something to be the best kind of setup, then everyone copies them.

Then the next year, the AT has MORE rules, trying to prevent specific types of overused setups,
but not really making a dent in the problem that everyone always finds one kind of "best" setup, which gets copied all over,
resulting in every AT ever having a "theme"

But however previous year rules tend to carry over, making every year more of an arbitrary rule mess, and less and less like actual PVP.

I'm fully behind banning geckos and augmented drones, as well as navy faction drones, for having too much hp, preventing their destruction in combat.
And faction mods on every ship, that balances the playing field, so the ultra rich cant just buy the tournament victories.
I would also support banning super rare ammo costing 10.000 isk+ per bullet.
But tech 2 and integrated drones?
I really cant say I see the point, and I for one found the drone meta quite interesting.

However, for those tired of it:
Banning T2 drones wont reduce the drone meta,
banning faction drones will, especially the high HP kind of faction drones, because those are incredibly easy to rescue in combat.(I rely on that myself on TQ)
Tech 2 and integrated however have nearly the same HP as Tech 1

Banning T2 and integrated drones is really just them saying they don't want anyone flying drone boats, and then we are removing an entire weapon category from the combat options.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#27 - 2015-05-21 17:49:53 UTC
You should make module bans a thing
Dermeisen
#28 - 2015-05-29 06:46:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Dermeisen
Thank you Logibro for taking up the baton. The evolution of the AT is so important to my mind. It's a proving ground for balance, a teaching aid to understanding fitting and teamwork in mico-gang pvp, a measure of the health of Eve and THE ONLY SPORT SOME PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT /blush !

I do hope for a continuation of the technical support that exposes the interplay between not only hp and control but also of tactics and positioning/ maneuvering on the field. I appreciate the commitments CCP sets itself but this AT of ours is an important celebration of Eve at its finest/most technical even at its most political. We get to see the pilots we follow do their thing and we realise the depth of Eve.

The play by play dynamic of running down scram/webbing, the operation of tactics of kiting/rush control etc that makes each match so enthralling. The live commentary and the larger picture of the history of the alliances is so expertly handled by the likes of Fozzie, Rise et al. Thank you team AT for being so excellent when you are so busy solving and improving our game.

A modest instant replay or two with a few arrows might be added to the post match analysis at some point? This may be unfeasible for loads of reasons other than simply a lack of resources but every little increment that's been added has made the AT more watchable less obscure and more useful to the average player. Some of us are more average that others. Cheers

"Not the Boreworms!"

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