Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When did this happen, CCP has always been against it.

Can you use GTC to cash out all that ISK you will never use? If the answer is "no" then its not RMT (your not selling your ISK for RL money)

You dont buy ingame currency, you buy an ingame item that have a fluid ISK value.
The only Real Money Trade involved is paying CCP for an ingame item, thats worlds apart from selling your ingame ISK.

and if it was made legal? bot farming/incursion running would skyrocket , and shady scam sites would crop up constantly. I'm no lawyer but I'm sure there's some kind of liability issue for CCP if RMT between players is legalized.

read my original post. If ccp writes up a proper document which any multinational corporation will do then they wont be held liable.
Further more If they oversee said transactions instead of handing it over to third partys then those scam sights would be illegal either way. CCP would be the licensed broker and therefore these sights would hold no meaning. Its not hard to set up a few guidelines the first of which would simply state that ccp is not liable for scamming done outside of the network. And would add a safety net. Such as the offending player being banned and the scamed player being compensated(if done in network) and both partys being banned if done out of network..

in addition its not uncommon for brokers to act as holders aswell. For example

Party a wants to buy say a 2 bill.

Party b wants to sell 2 bill for 20 dollars.

Part c the broker(CCP) would then take 2 billion from the seller and then 20 dollars from the buyer. And proceed with swapping. The buyer would get 18 dollars . 2 dollars would go to ccp for the brokers fee. And then any scam or problem that would emerge would then be at ccps fault. Which is a risk. But no more a risk then buying plex and then them charging twice what you authorized.

you go on a lot of assumptions on whether CCP can even get those multinational corporations to consent to these agreements (or even want to), without any issue. the broker would need access to the player account to get at the money, that's access to the game server. I doubt CCP would allow outsiders, even if they are contracted, access to their property. How can the player retrieve the money? How about sending the money to the broker for the transactions? How about stuff like taxation? There is bound to be a lot of red tape to go through to get things going, and more just to get it going smoothly.

RMT would only cause people to make their job to farm isk for money (something i suspect you are steering towards)
and cause more bot like behavior.


This isn't even going into what can go wrong: the allegations of fraud/fraudulent behavior ,theft of game accounts and selling off liquid assets while posing as the account owner, the in game scamming that is already allowed treading on illegal activities, etc.

There is too much that can go wrong and CCP could easily wind up losing everything. I see no benefit in this that warrants this kind of risk.

Also CCP acting as brokers? Now they have to hire more staff to do this with reduced profits from plex sales. Is would struggle to monitor the bot posts in market place. God this would wreck so much so quickly. If you were sitting on a trillion isk it would be worthless overnight... oh also nullsec would be a big blue farmers paradice overnight...

Are you a child? If they fomalize RMT they are legally a bank (they've said that's why they wouldn't if they want to). Writing "we aren't liable" doesn't magically make that true.

They don't want to be a launderer.

No, just no.

CCP wouldn't have as much cash from it as they do from it now. And it becomes a RL sandbox where crimes are crimes and that's no fun.