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Applying a buffer tank with active tanking

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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#21 - 2015-05-14 06:36:58 UTC
WASPY69 wrote:

If you HAVE to rep in space, just bring a depot in your cargo along with the rep.

Apologies, I didn't give enough sense of time - when I say "used to" I meant when the Rifter was good.
Mobile Depots didn't exist at the time and to fit a "real" repper online meant downgrading the plate (if it was a 400mm plate then dropping down to a 200mm) and that meant a very different ship.
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-05-14 08:30:12 UTC
To stop alpha or if it gets more ehp then the extra ehp you get from the mod in itself and the extra reps your rep woud give you.
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#23 - 2015-05-15 02:26:04 UTC
Buffer + ancil reps works very well. For example if you are flying in a small nano gang with no logi you may be faced with high incoming damage for a short period of time before you pull range or warp off. A normal nano cruiser would get volleyed off the field. However, a buffer + AAR/XLASB cruiser is going to survive by repping across its larger buffer.

For example, for solo you may want a nomen with a nano because speed is life as a solo ship and the faster you go the more likely you will be to pop an inty before it rams you. However, when flying in a 5 man gang you may want to fit an 800mm plate in place of the nano so that if you face high incoming damage such as from an ishtar or t3 BC you are not immediately forced off the field and are still able to carry out your role as frigate killer.

Fitting buffer also works very well for XLASB cruisers. For many cruisers simply running a heated XLASB with blue pill will rep to close to 100% shields. This is bad because you either over rep wasting asb charges or you bleed armor/hull. In this case a LSE + XLASB is a very good option. The LSE also gives you the potential to stay on grid through the XLASB reload. XLASBs and LSEs have very good synergy on cruisers. The gila and the orthrus are very common examples of ships that fit XLASB + LSE to great effect.

Finally, if you are bait tanking a ship buffer + reps is a good idea. Bait ships need to hold the enemy down for your gang to get on the target, and will thus take a lot of damage. This damage is probably more than a cheap bait ship can rep through with a simple active tank. On a bait vexor you can fit 1600 plate, MAR, AAR, EANM, and DCU in the low slots with as many trimarks in the rigs as possible. This gives you over 30k ehp along with ~500 dps tank with exile for about a minute. This is a much better alternative to a pure buffer vexor which has 40k ehp with no rep ability or a dual rep vexor which can tank 600 - 700 dps but has no buffer.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#24 - 2015-05-17 11:04:52 UTC
When looking at active armor tanks, it pretty much depends on what you want to do with your ship.

For example, i used to fly an Arbitrator in FW and aim for dps heavy turret cruisers.
The goal was to get on top of them, tackle them, get under their guns as good as i can, and then tank their measly dps that's left.
While an empty AAR was plenty enough to tank them after i got into my honeyspot, the heated, charged AAR was heavily outdps'd during my approach. As such, i had to use a 800mm Plate to complement my EHP.

It worked like a charm.



Conclusion: If you expect to take some heavy, heavy dps your repper can't withstand that will however drop down to absolutely manageable amounts, a plate might be a thing for you.
Same for Shields, of course, however you have the option of ASBs here which kinda perform like a mixture of a buffer and an active module already.

Another case where buffer + active might work well is when you know you're going up against rapid launchers. Your active + Buffer combination will be able to withstand the ultra high applied DPS of rapid launchers, and you will be able to comfotably rep up again in his reload window.
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