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Stargate Connections in UUA-F4

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Daft-Cube
#1 - 2015-05-11 03:17:19 UTC
If you have been observing the map, there are now a handful of stargate connections in Jove space. According to the CONCORD starmap, no one holds sov there, which must mean the Jove were officially wiped out. This raises questions, however. If the jove are there, who rebuilt the gates? Or are they just re-activating? I dunno. I just want to share this observation with the much brighter scientists of New Eden.

Daft-Cube, Ishukone Productions Manager for the Oimmo VII Facility

Daft-Cube
#2 - 2015-05-11 03:26:44 UTC
Never mind; sources state that they have been here for much time in their own isolated network. Still worth a discussion.

Daft-Cube, Ishukone Productions Manager for the Oimmo VII Facility

Kirk Ernaga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2015-05-11 04:19:23 UTC
I swear those werent there before. Also looks like the whole region dropped sov.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#4 - 2015-05-11 04:48:55 UTC
I would say there is a high probability that the Drifters are putting in some work getting the gates back online.

Which would be interesting given that they have proven not to need them. But given the possibility, perhaps the Drifters have something too big for wormholes to handle? They might be using freighters or have some non-Wormhole capable vessels in use in that region utilized for local objectives.

Industrious lot, these Drifters.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Radical Divinity
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-05-11 05:12:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Radical Divinity
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I would say there is a high probability that the Drifters are putting in some work getting the gates back online.

Which would be interesting given that they have proven not to need them. But given the possibility, perhaps the Drifters have something too big for wormholes to handle? They might be using freighters or have some non-Wormhole capable vessels in use in that region utilized for local objectives.

Industrious lot, these Drifters.


It may be too quick to assume that the Jovians the Drifters are enemies of any sort. Whatever the Jovians have left behind would be dangerous to leave lying scattered through their derelict empire. It might be that the Jovians themselves called out to some distant cousin to preserve and protect dangerous artifacts.

Too, they might even be a Jovian military force, having been stored in stasis until recalled.

Let's hope they are open to diplomatic overtures. Assuming we can open lines of communication.

We should be thankful, if anything, as the threat of another Sansha's Nation is something no Empire needs.
Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-05-11 07:28:03 UTC
I don't typically speculate in the absence of so much data, but I can't resist, given my interest in high-energy quantum gravity.

I suspect Sansha's Nation brought part of the Jove gate network back online. We've already seen (possibly-doctored) footage showing a station of the standard Jove design, surrounded by Sansha forces.

Surely using point-defects to move supercarriers and capital ships between two nearby systems would be wasteful; if they have 'moved in' to that area at all, I would expect them to restore the local infrastructure to the best of their ability.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2015-05-11 08:02:38 UTC
Radical Divinity wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I would say there is a high probability that the Drifters are putting in some work getting the gates back online.

Which would be interesting given that they have proven not to need them. But given the possibility, perhaps the Drifters have something too big for wormholes to handle? They might be using freighters or have some non-Wormhole capable vessels in use in that region utilized for local objectives.

Industrious lot, these Drifters.


It may be too quick to assume that the Jovians the Drifters are enemies of any sort. Whatever the Jovians have left behind would be dangerous to leave lying scattered through their derelict empire. It might be that the Jovians themselves called out to some distant cousin to preserve and protect dangerous artifacts.

Too, they might even be a Jovian military force, having been stored in stasis until recalled.

Let's hope they are open to diplomatic overtures. Assuming we can open lines of communication.

We should be thankful, if anything, as the threat of another Sansha's Nation is something no Empire needs.




Yeah it's a rash primitive response to assume the Drifters are malevolent simply for being different. Given the history of the empires, were I just showing up in New Eden I too would be making some shows of force to gain leverage.

I just saw a Scope news report that the Amarr are going to harvest equipment from Drifters. This is not good. Now if the Drifters were all about being peaceful they would be harvested wholesale for profit. Not to mention that a war with Drifter can be an aid to any empire to cover up their own foibles. There is also war profiteering to consider as well.

No vessel in my organization will be engaging Drifters unless under an unprovoked attack. I fear however that the Drifters might be driven to open hostility with the empires and measures will have to be taken to stay out of the crossfire. But if I had to rank threats I would not be putting Drifters in the top position.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

iyammarrok
Drunken Beaver Mining
Gnawthority
#8 - 2015-05-11 11:02:23 UTC
Louanne Barros wrote:
I don't typically speculate in the absence of so much data, but I can't resist, given my interest in high-energy quantum gravity.

I suspect Sansha's Nation brought part of the Jove gate network back online. We've already seen (possibly-doctored) footage showing a station of the standard Jove design, surrounded by Sansha forces.

Surely using point-defects to move supercarriers and capital ships between two nearby systems would be wasteful; if they have 'moved in' to that area at all, I would expect them to restore the local infrastructure to the best of their ability.



At the time of that image, it was confirmed that the station shown was the 3-CE1R Prosper Vault.
The Drifter corporation known as Vigilant Tyrannos is based out of the same station.

I sincerely doubt this is Nation's doing.

'This is not Nation's doing' .... Didn't Awakened Infomorph say that after a new WH opened over New Caldari that day...

Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.

Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
#9 - 2015-05-11 13:48:45 UTC
I've been watching CONCORD maps of the region closely since the Jove gate network fell, and can confirm that the constellation at issue (I believe it is O-BSIB in region A821-A) has been operative since the rest of the network fell.

O-BSIB is the constellation in Jove space farthest from the Caroline's Star explosion in W477-P, and it seems likely that this constellation survived simply as a matter of distance from the event, which seems a reasonable explanation given that nearby, capsuleer-controlled stargates were similarly unaffected.
Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-05-12 01:13:40 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:

At the time of that image, it was confirmed that the station shown was the 3-CE1R Prosper Vault.
The Drifter corporation known as Vigilant Tyrannos is based out of the same station.


Excellent points; I had somehow missed that particular message from the 'Infomorph'.
I suppose that re-raises the original question then; what are the Drifters using stargates for? They don't appear to need them much when operating in better-known parts of space.
Radical Divinity
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2015-05-12 02:34:00 UTC
Louanne Barros wrote:
iyammarrok wrote:

At the time of that image, it was confirmed that the station shown was the 3-CE1R Prosper Vault.
The Drifter corporation known as Vigilant Tyrannos is based out of the same station.


Excellent points; I had somehow missed that particular message from the 'Infomorph'.
I suppose that re-raises the original question then; what are the Drifters using stargates for? They don't appear to need them much when operating in better-known parts of space.


Activation of the star gates would give them a more detailed map of populated systems within Jovian space. They are most likely fortifying the system, sweeping up any stray technology and claiming a slice of New Eden.
anonsha
Gottfried
The Chamber of Commerce
#12 - 2015-05-17 10:27:20 UTC
I think we are overlooking something here, does the star-gates reactivating have to be nefarious in nature? All we could be observing is the Jove simply repairing the damage to their network in order to facilitate repairs and expedite reclamation operations. Repairs much needed since the "Caroline's Star" superluminal incident damaged there communication and power network.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-05-17 11:06:30 UTC
Mark726 wrote:
I've been watching CONCORD maps of the region closely since the Jove gate network fell, and can confirm that the constellation at issue (I believe it is O-BSIB in region A821-A) has been operative since the rest of the network fell.

O-BSIB is the constellation in Jove space farthest from the Caroline's Star explosion in W477-P, and it seems likely that this constellation survived simply as a matter of distance from the event, which seems a reasonable explanation given that nearby, capsuleer-controlled stargates were similarly unaffected.

There's still an open question: why the Jove Directorate hasn't contacted CONCORD about what is happening in their space, considering they are members of CONCORD as well.
Or maybe they did and CONCORD simply doesn't tell us? Roll

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Random Bacon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-05-18 16:56:43 UTC
iyammarrok wrote:



At the time of that image, it was confirmed that the station shown was the 3-CE1R Prosper Vault.
The Drifter corporation known as Vigilant Tyrannos is based out of the same station.



CONCORD does state in the Vigilant Tyrannos description that they are global, large, have no known tax system, no known shares and are members of the Drifters alliance.

The 'Drifters' alliance is detailed as having no settled systems and no stations.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#15 - 2015-05-19 05:15:11 UTC
The stargates you mention haven't been reactivated, they have always been active. They somehow seem to have missed being take out by whatever disabled the stargates in that region and Jove space. Likely because they are on the periphery, so would have been less affected by any catastrophes (assuming that's why the stargates went offline)