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I almost had a really bad moment tonight.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2015-05-12 03:07:03 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:

Do you have a good video link for professional combat probing?



This would make a really, really good guide in this forum if someone wants to do it. (I'm only mediocre at combat probing)

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#22 - 2015-05-12 08:12:22 UTC
You can never be too paranoid, but it should be noted that unless they're hunting your T1 mission-running ship in a fleet comprised entirely of Stealth Bombers, you're going to see their _ships_ on d-scan before they can get to you if you're in the second or higher room of the site. Generally, waiting for that point to warp out is more standard for high/low-sec.

Regarding scanning, given that they were zeroing in on you the long way the goal was probably to chase you out of your spot/intimidate you, not to actually catch you. Combat-scanning the common mission/combat site ships is actually a lot faster than what you're describing.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#23 - 2015-05-12 14:47:38 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:


Probes only move to their newly designated position once you press the scan button, until then they stay exactly where they were.
So your 5 seconds really ends up more like this.
1 - 5 seconds to scan.
2 - 10 - 15 seconds for the scanner to designate a new probe position outside d-scan range and re-scan to force the probes to move.
3 - 10 - 15 seconds to designate another probe position closer to the target and then scan again.
Repeat steps 2 and 3 above until a target lock can be achieved.
If a mission runner is d-scanning every 8-10 seconds there is a very high chance that they will find the probes and get out long before any real danger comes close.

And yes I have tested this repeatedly, probes do not re-position in space until you hit the scan button.

You can figure out pretty much where someone is with Dscan. Then it is just a matter of moving the probes on top of him and hitting scan then immediately moving them out of Dscan range and hitting scan again. Your three times 10-15 seconds thing is for someone being slow or lazy or not good at combat probing.

Do you have a good video link for professional combat probing?

The 5 second process mentioned relies on you having done a major d-scan location of a possible target first and how long that takes is purely player skill driven but the shortest amount of time I have ever seen it done in is about 20 - 30 seconds. And doing so requires you to be on grid with the mission runner so that should alert them to step up there d-scans, but not always.

The 5 seconds is referring to the actual time required for the probes to do the scan cycle itself and represents the absolute minimum time. To get it that low requires the best ships, modules and implants the game has to offer. For those using anything less than the very best of everything scan cycle times are likely to be in the 7-8 second range.

Another portion here that this magical 5 seconds does not take into account is that you cannot control the exact location of your probes deployment even if you can control the exact formation and spacing. Given this it is quite likely that the scanner would have to re-position the probe cluster before they can scan and that would add an additional 10-15 seconds or so plus the time for the probes to actually move so add this to the magical 5 second scan. Even with max skills, best equipment, years of personal experience doing this and the d-scan location head start probes are quite likely to be visible on d-scan for between 15 and 20 seconds before they are moved or recalled.

As for the video of combat scanning I have not seen a really good one but then I had a good teacher and have not really looked.
The actual probe scanning portion of this is relatively simple, it is the d-scan location that can be hard for some to learn.
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#24 - 2015-05-13 20:11:32 UTC
All this suspense in the first two paragraphs. Shocked

Then it turned out it was in Hisecks. HAHAHAHAHA. Big smile

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#25 - 2015-05-14 19:09:43 UTC
GankYou wrote:
All this suspense in the first two paragraphs. Shocked

Then it turned out it was in Hisecks. HAHAHAHAHA. Big smile


that plus the amount of paranoia is just lulz.

if someone takes the time to probe me out I want to give them a little wave when they show up on grid Bear

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