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GizzyBoy
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#61 - 2015-05-10 09:12:44 UTC
so its basicly a PL wh diplo channel, ok ...
G0hme
Illusion of Flight
#62 - 2015-05-10 09:16:28 UTC
GizzyBoy wrote:
so its basicly a PL wh diplo channel, ok ...


Considering there are PL guys in AHARM, wouldnt it be correct to assume that the opinion of AHARM is the opinion of PL aswell?

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-05-10 09:20:58 UTC
Axloth Okiah wrote:
And yes, I agree that corbexx has done great things for us during his first term. I really liked him, I still do (not as much as before tho). But in my opinion it doesnt give him a carte blanche to demand that everyone bends his knee to his wishes. The decision to publicly separate from wh community was his, not ours.

How many kills do SSC get in NS each month?
How many alts do HK have in large NS groups?
How many NS groups have alt/allied corps in wspace?
If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that.
The wspace population has regressed into whiny, self entitled entities who have zero interest in the prosperity of wspace as a whole, only their own agendas.
We should all be thankful that Corbexx still wants to have ANYTHING to do with the wormhole community in general after the treatment he's been getting. I dont think I would.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#64 - 2015-05-10 09:31:18 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
I don't agree.

There's no point amalgamating the arguments of whether he's a good CSM and whether he should be in a certain channel. They are two different things.

I'm not and I wasn't trying to.

You've utterly missed the entire point of my posts.

Jack Miton wrote:
If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that.

Couldn't agree more or have said it any better.

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Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2015-05-10 09:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Axloth Okiah
Jack Miton wrote:
If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that.
I dont think that and what I think is irrelevant here anyway. The only relevant thing in this is whether the representatives from all the wh groups are comfortable with him being in that channel. It really is this simple. I dunno why so many people go out of their way to turn this into some massive thing.

As I said numerous time already (and very few people bother to read it), I ,personally, dont really care that much. I'm always happy to answer corbexx and provide him with whatever feedback he needs, I never blocked him in anything, never kicked him form anywhere. I will do for him what he needs to be a CSM. What I will NOT do is to go over the heads of all other WH diplos and CEOs for him.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#66 - 2015-05-10 09:45:26 UTC
Axloth Okiah wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
If you really think that Corbexx is not a part of the WH community anymore then there really is no helping you. It's ignorant and deeply hypocritical to actually believe that.
I dont think that and what I think is irrelevant here anyway. The only relevant thing in this is whether all the representatives from all the wh groups are comfortable with him being in that channel. It really is this simple. I dunno why so many people go out of their way to turn this into some massive thing.

As I said numerous time already (and very few people bother to read it), I ,personally, dont really care that much. I'm always happy to answer corbexx and provide him with whatever feedback he needs, I never blocked him in anything, never kicked him form anywhere. I will do for him what he needs to be a CSM. What I will NOT do is to go over the heads of all other WH diplos and CEOs for him.

I agree that in a tactical-sense of course, you don't want a pilot from a big nullsec entity sitting in a WH channel that seemingly is used primarily for tactical reasons, batphoning, etc and w/e.

But people don't need to be knobs about it. And people are being knobs about it, and toward corbexx consistently on various levels. The channel thing is just symbolic of it, and I don't feel he deserves that. That's all -I- am saying in my posts and from my viewpoint. And I can promise you that these same folk will be the first to come whining to him when there's a CSM-relevant WH issue that they want raised or looked at.

Or maybe they'll convo Chance?

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Royal Jedi
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#67 - 2015-05-10 10:01:35 UTC
This is the most content w-space has created in months. And it's about a diplo channel. Good job! Cool
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#68 - 2015-05-10 10:14:33 UTC
Royal Jedi wrote:
This is the most content w-space has created in months. And it's about a diplo channel. Good job! Cool

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Jay Joringer
13.
#69 - 2015-05-10 11:31:41 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:

I'm not and I wasn't trying to.

You've utterly missed the entire point of my posts.



No, no. I understand that everyone that doesn't agree with you is acting like a 'knob'. You're entitled to your own opinions on this and I respect your point of view. I didn't give it any credence in-case we get yet another 'actually, he's a great guy' post. Given how understanding you claim to be about people's reactions to all this. you should bear in mind those on the other side of the argument are fully entitled to act like 'knobs'.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#70 - 2015-05-10 11:39:12 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:

I'm not and I wasn't trying to.

You've utterly missed the entire point of my posts.



No, no. I understand that everyone that doesn't agree with you is acting like a 'knob'. You're entitled to your own opinions on this and I respect your point of view. I didn't give it any credence in-case we get yet another 'actually, he's a great guy' post. Given how understanding you claim to be about people's reactions to all this. you should bear in mind those on the other side of the argument are fully entitled to act like 'knobs'.

Not sure if you're trolling or just having real trouble understanding my posts.

I'm not in any way talking about whether or not people agree with me, couldn't care less lol

I was giving my opinion of some people's attitude toward corbexx. If you don't agree with my opinion that doesn't make you a knob at all.

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Jay Joringer
13.
#71 - 2015-05-10 11:52:18 UTC
If I was trolling, I'd flit in and out of my own counter arguments at my convenience and dismiss responses at my leisure. To be fair, despite hinting at those things quite strongly you've not explicitly said them. Technically correct, best correct.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#72 - 2015-05-10 11:58:23 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
If I was trolling, I'd flit in and out of my own counter arguments at my convenience and dismiss responses at my leisure. To be fair, despite hinting at those things quite strongly you've not explicitly said them. Technically correct, best correct.

Not hinting at anything at all.

I believe the attitude displayed towards corbexx by some people is quite "knobish".

Really a straight forward opinion tbh, not sure what you're getting caught up in.

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Jay Joringer
13.
#73 - 2015-05-10 12:06:43 UTC
Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it? Big smile
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#74 - 2015-05-10 12:10:34 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it? Big smile

Not at all.

Just trying to address your insinuations and help you interpret what you're reading a little easier.

I hope it helped. I'm guessing from your big smile that it did, and if you're happy, Jay, I'm happy.

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Steven Hackett
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#75 - 2015-05-10 12:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Hackett
Ones opinion of Corbexx as a CSM shouldn't have anything to do with this.
Corbexx's ability as a CSM shouldn't have anything to do with this.

Wether or not everyone in the diplo channel trusts Corbexx as a person does however, and as Corbexx isn't a point of contact for any WH diplo work, but just wants to be in the channel because he is CSM, it is up to the other diplos to decide if he should be. Just like it was voted on to let or not let the ISD into the channel.

So please understand.. This topic isn't about Corbexx's ability as a CSM or personal opinions about him.
It is about wether or not a CSM automaticly should have access to diplomatic information for W-space that doesn't have anything to do with gamedevelopment etc. and it is wether or not you can trust the player/character Corbexx.
The person who have cheated you once and who doesn't shy away from putting conversations on the forums to force his will when the community say no. (apparently)

So this entire discussion about what Corbexx has done for w-space and how good a CSM asset he is, is at least off-topic. At worst derailing for the discussion. yes?
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#76 - 2015-05-10 12:20:14 UTC
Steven Hackett wrote:
yes?

No. Discussions evolve. Deal with it.

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Jay Joringer
13.
#77 - 2015-05-10 12:21:56 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Jay Joringer wrote:
Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it? Big smile

Not at all.

Just trying to address your insinuations and help you interpret what you're reading a little easier.

I hope it helped. I'm guessing from your big smile that it did, and if you're happy, Jay, I'm happy.



Damn, and I was hoping for a shrewd and consistent exchange. Petty pedantry can indeed keep me happy.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#78 - 2015-05-10 12:25:11 UTC
Jay Joringer wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Jay Joringer wrote:
Having a difference of opinion is hardly 'getting caught up' in anything now, is it? Big smile

Not at all.

Just trying to address your insinuations and help you interpret what you're reading a little easier.

I hope it helped. I'm guessing from your big smile that it did, and if you're happy, Jay, I'm happy.



Damn, and I was hoping for a shrewd and consistent exchange. Petty pedantry can indeed keep me happy.

It's like 10:30pm here and I gotta be up at like 5am.

Trying to shitup OOPE a little and actually do some flying before I go to bed. This thread is fun though.

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Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#79 - 2015-05-10 12:26:09 UTC
ITT, drama over a special snowflake channel for all us special snowflakes, complaining about a special snowflake.

I love you guys.

Serious reply: Corbexx did a great job of CSM last term, there's no arguing from my side of things, but there's a lot of MAD over how he defected to GSF. Let's all take a deep breath for a minute and realise we can all have opinions on that but we should probably try to keep the debate of the channel away from his ability as a CSM. End of the day, as I interpret it, it's a batphone/diplo channel for CEOs and Directors of wormhole based corps, and it kinda don't make sense for people who've moved over their main activity/corp to a nullsec alliance to be in there.

Corbexx, I love ya, but you gotta accept there's been certain bridges burned. I'd still have you hang out in our pub channel any day.

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Steven Hackett
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#80 - 2015-05-10 12:28:20 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
Steven Hackett wrote:
yes?

No. Discussions evolve. Deal with it.


That is cool, but then people should stop using the later discussion as arguments in the prior discussion... If people mix the discussions they aren't evolving it, they are just plain stupid and offtopic/derailing.