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What's wrong with minmatar space? (lol Hilen Tukoss)
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#21 - 2015-05-08 12:59:12 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Why don't you like Hek? It's filled with such colorful charactets?
It's not.
How would you know without being there?
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Lucy Lopez
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-05-08 13:01:04 UTC
They can't handle the brown, so they get outta town.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#23 - 2015-05-08 13:03:21 UTC
Lucy Lopez wrote:
They can't handle the brown, so they get outta town.

Weirdly enough I kind of agree that the colors add a weird flair,
which might drive people off into more pretty space.

And sorry for staring.
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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-08 13:09:03 UTC
I think the better question ask is - why would anyone go there in the first place? There's nothing particularly special aboout them, and literally every other Empire has a better market and more people, as you point out yourself. If I'm looking for content, I'm not going to Gelfiven.


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Reislier
#25 - 2015-05-08 13:18:13 UTC
Look at proximity of trade hubs to each other.
Note concurrency of 0.5 systems in routes to and from all hubs.
Think about where you would most like and least like to fly freighter.
Consider most active regions in empire and where most trade happen.
Consider most active gank regions in empire.
If Jita is north end and Amarr is south, then ne is ghetto. it has always been so in 9+ years I play.
Note corp alliances in proximity of low and null borders at each hub and consider potential for hostility to ships related to trade.

Minmater space has good potential for trade but only time I take freighter that way is when coming from Amarr and planning return trip to Amarr.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#26 - 2015-05-08 13:18:55 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
I think the better question ask is - why would anyone go there in the first place? There's nothing particularly special aboout them, and literally every other Empire has a better market and more people, as you point out yourself. If I'm looking for content, I'm not going to Gelfiven.



Yeah, well, you adress this from the wrong perspective.

First came the decline in activity ...
... and then came the failcascade of "no one there, I go somewhere else".

So what is it that encouraged people t
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Eve Solecist
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#27 - 2015-05-08 13:19:43 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
I think the better question ask is - why would anyone go there in the first place? There's nothing particularly special aboout them, and literally every other Empire has a better market and more people, as you point out yourself. If I'm looking for content, I'm not going to Gelfiven.



First came the decline in activity ...
... and then came the failcascade of "no one there, I go somewhere else".

But why did people go somewhere else?
Why do people still do it, assuming activity isn't the reason?
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#28 - 2015-05-08 13:20:38 UTC
incidentally because nobody wants to live there terrible carebear outfits thrive out in minmatar space (and the ass end of Amarr too). So if you ate looking for a bear shoot and are willing to fly 27 jumps to get there and can tolerate warping 180 au between gates it might be the place for you.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#29 - 2015-05-08 13:22:58 UTC
Reislier wrote:
Look at proximity of trade hubs to each other.
Note concurrency of 0.5 systems in routes to and from all hubs.
Think about where you would most like and least like to fly freighter.
Consider most active regions in empire and where most trade happen.
Consider most active gank regions in empire.
If Jita is north end and Amarr is south, then ne is ghetto. it has always been so in 9+ years I play.
Note corp alliances in proximity of low and null borders at each hub and consider potential for hostility to ships related to trade.

Minmater space has good potential for trade but only time I take freighter that way is when coming from Amarr and planning return trip to Amarr.

That's a very good post. Not sure what freighters have to do with it.
I would consider the route to jita, through uedama, much worse.

Lots of things to consider. I will feast on the new map and look into this later at home.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#30 - 2015-05-08 13:23:34 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
incidentally because nobody wants to live there terrible carebear outfits thrive out in minmatar space (and the ass end of Amarr too). So if you ate looking for a bear shoot and are willing to fly 27 jumps to get there and can tolerate warping 180 au between gates it might be the place for you.

What?
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#31 - 2015-05-08 13:24:25 UTC
It's the hideous reddish-brown wash on their systems, is my guess.

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Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#32 - 2015-05-08 13:31:08 UTC
Try visiting Rens, the other Minmatar trade hub.

If SoE is what you seek, Rens has 3 SoE stations.
Sweet Adamas
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-05-08 13:31:33 UTC
I live in Minmatar space and i like it.

there are plenty of people around doing there thing. Much bearing and pvping but


if you are looking for people to gank i suggest you go to Caldari space as you wont find to many in Minmatar space
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-05-08 13:31:45 UTC
I like Minmatar space when I want some peace and quiet to do my own thing for a while. I always seem to end up back there when I'm between corps. I think the other ting is that CCP doesn't pay attention to it that much in the Lore/trailers either. Think about it - which ships do you see most often in the trailers and Scope bits? Pretty much everyone but Minmatar. When was the last time you heard a Scope reporter say "Meanwhile, in Rens..."

Minmatar space is basically the bastard child of Empire space. We all know it's there, but it just doesn't imprint itself on the cllective consciousness like the other areas.

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Eve Solecist
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#35 - 2015-05-08 13:35:21 UTC
Sweet Adamas wrote:
I live in Minmatar space and i like it.

there are plenty of people around doing there thing. Much bearing and pvping but


if you are looking for people to gank i suggest you go to Caldari space as you wont find to many in Minmatar space

I never said anything about a relation to my own interests and it's not even implied.

Please list the systems or constellations you see actual activity in
and please do not forget that local is a huge part of this activity.

It's not that I don't believe you, but details are lacking.
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Eve Solecist
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#36 - 2015-05-08 13:41:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Elenahina wrote:
I like Minmatar space when I want some peace and quiet to do my own thing for a while. I always seem to end up back there when I'm between corps. I think the other ting is that CCP doesn't pay attention to it that much in the Lore/trailers either. Think about it - which ships do you see most often in the trailers and Scope bits? Pretty much everyone but Minmatar. When was the last time you heard a Scope reporter say "Meanwhile, in Rens..."

Minmatar space is basically the bastard child of Empire space. We all know it's there, but it just doesn't imprint itself on the cllective consciousness like the other areas.

Red headed step child seems most appropriate.

And yeah you going there for the quiets.

That shouldn't be happening. Going somewhere for the quiets
means that the systems are lacking activity.

Last time I noticed anything lore related (I'm not up2date) ...
... was Boundless Creations inventing the micro jump drive.

I also include the thoughts that people rather want to be horrible conservative religious nutjobs, Amarrians,
... or perverted freesexualactivity for all Gallente ...
... corporate, heartless sociopaths called Caldari ...
... compared to fighters of freedom and former slaves ... Minmatar.

From this angle, Minmatar are the only ones who exist just for the sake of existing,
while all others actually provide something people can identify with.

Bringing in the superiority complex topic isn't what I want ...
... but I think it adds a bit to the equation.

I don't have numbers about which faction gets the most newly created chars.
I absolutely assume Amarr, followed by Caldari to be the top two.
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Lucy Lopez
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-05-08 13:48:17 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It's the hideous reddish-brown wash on their systems, is my guess.


I like the aesthetic here. It feels wild and remote, kind of like the empire space equivalent of Mos Eisley, and the red/rust stars and nebulae give the impression of a universe in perpetual sunset. When I hear Red Glowing Dust and Safe Trade Routes playing out here I get goosebumps.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#38 - 2015-05-08 13:53:56 UTC
Lucy Lopez wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It's the hideous reddish-brown wash on their systems, is my guess.


I like the aesthetic here. It feels wild and remote, kind of like the empire space equivalent of Mos Eisley, and the red/rust stars and nebulae give the impression of a universe in perpetual sunset. When I hear Red Glowing Dust and Safe Trade Routes playing out here I get goosebumps.

There was a time when I felt the same.
Colour psychology gives a nice insight into this.
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Reislier
#39 - 2015-05-08 13:54:29 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

That's a very good post. Not sure what freighters have to do with it.
I would consider the route to jita, through uedama, much worse.

Lots of things to consider. I will feast on the new map and look into this later at home.


Well.. freighters go where the social activity of people go.. but if I am going to move a billion + between hubs.. then the jita hek rens route would make the vein between eyes show more than a trip to amarr or dod. I can escort myself thru uedama with no worries.. but I don't like multiple .5 in row in big slow pig freighter.. with my drone boat running interference. yes can be done but why bother? is not worth time.. and try to say to friends.. hey.. want to make run to rens with me.. will make worth your time.. then watch.. oh look at time.. good night.. wife calling.. kid having fit.


is horrible trip.. too many jump.. nobody go there.. prices suck bong water.. and space is red and creepy.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#40 - 2015-05-08 14:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Nice post. Thank you!
And well done on your face!
Looks pretty realistic with actual expression.
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