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What's wrong with minmatar space? (lol Hilen Tukoss)
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#1 - 2015-05-08 10:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Apparently this happened a few hours after I made this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i12yk3fZVHw&feature=youtu.be!

Metropolis.
Minmatar space.


So people approach me about this topic.
Minmatar space is rather low on the activity barometer.

In the last years lots of formerly active corporations and alliances left it.
People left for caldari space, or gallente space.
Where ever there is more action.

Now the amarrians get so see more activity with the Drifters as well.


Excuse me? What am I missing?
Did they remove something from Minmatar space?
Is it the rather unpleasant looking nebula?

Hek is a dead place with hundred people and barely activity.
Most people seem to be outside boundless during the USTZ ...
... and these aren't exactly top quality players eithed.

Silence is the loudest noise.
Carebears everywhere.
And no one can tell me Hek is full of traders being busy.
I just need to look ag the market to know that's not true.

Minmatar space is boring. I felt it every single day in the last days
and people confirmed me my feeling.


So what's wrong with it? And hey, I'm not asking anyone to change that,
I can do that myself. I want to know why the only region with a
0.5hub system directly at a lowsec border is so dead.

Thanks!
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-05-08 10:57:43 UTC
Some people report general decline in player activity but they are rumor mongers for sure! Cool

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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
Dreamweb Industries
Novus Ordo.
#3 - 2015-05-08 11:14:59 UTC
EVE is dying.

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The Voice of Highsec
Solecist Project
#4 - 2015-05-08 11:25:37 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Some people report general decline in player activity but they are rumor mongers for sure! Cool

That's irrelevant to my question, actually.

People are leaving minmatar space for other space.

Why?

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#5 - 2015-05-08 11:29:53 UTC
SoE missions might be one factor, the changes in ore prices another.
Quiet back water of space sounds enticing to me. ;)

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Hicksimus
Torgue
#6 - 2015-05-08 11:35:47 UTC
I can think of a lot of reasons not to want to choose Minmatar space over other space but mostly I think it's the legacy of the original and terrible moon goo distribution and then....trickle down economics.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#7 - 2015-05-08 11:36:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
SoE missions might be one factor, the changes in ore prices another.
Quiet back water of space sounds enticing to me. ;)

These pack detail to count as explanation.

Please elaborate.


Oh and quiet space is bad.
This ain't lowsec.
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-05-08 11:37:49 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Some people report general decline in player activity but they are rumor mongers for sure! Cool

That's irrelevant to my question, actually.

People are leaving minmatar space for other space.

Why?

Has number of players in this 'other space' increased because of those migrants? Do you have newly overcrowded systems?

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#9 - 2015-05-08 11:38:29 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
I can think of a lot of reasons not to want to choose Minmatar space over other space but mostly I think it's the legacy of the original and terrible moon goo distribution and then....trickle down economics.

Then please list these reasons, if you have them.

What does moongoo have to do with it?
When was this change?
What's the connection?
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#10 - 2015-05-08 11:43:57 UTC
Minmatar space has been the ass end of nowhere for as long as I can remember.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-05-08 11:44:04 UTC
When you said this, it dawned on me that I've probably never been in to Minmatar space other than when I was doing the Blood Stained Stars.

Sure, I started a Caldari, flew for a while in RvB (which at the time was based in Gallente space), then joined WIdot then Goonswarm, which is the other side of the map, but I've been in Amarr space plenty, so it isn't entirely just that.

Could be Great Wildlands stinking up the area, although Curse is high up on the NPC null resort list, so it isn't entirely a "nowhere intresting to go" situation.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#12 - 2015-05-08 11:47:47 UTC
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:
When you said this, it dawned on me that I've probably never been in to Minmatar space other than when I was doing the Blood Stained Stars.

Sure, I started a Caldari, flew for a while in RvB (which at the time was based in Gallente space), then joined WIdot then Goonswarm, which is the other side of the map, but I've been in Amarr space plenty, so it isn't entirely just that.

Could be Great Wildlands stinking up the area, although Curse is high up on the NPC null resort list, so it isn't entirely a "nowhere intresting to go" situation.


First paragraph. You never had reason to go there,
because there's more activity elsewhere. *nods*

What's with GW? What's the connection here?
The situation like it is now got gradually worse compared to last year ...
... which was already worse compared to a year before.
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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#13 - 2015-05-08 11:50:30 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Some people report general decline in player activity but they are rumor mongers for sure! Cool

That's irrelevant to my question, actually.

People are leaving minmatar space for other space.

Why?

Has number of players in this 'other space' increased because of those migrants? Do you have newly overcrowded systems?

Nothing I can tell.
I rely on what reliable former residents tell me about known corp/alliance activities.

With the death of Gradient, FRONT, others a **** ton of people was lost.
Others moved away, probably connected to the lack of social activity.

Which is bad, obviously.

I'm guesstimating a lot here and that annoys me.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-05-08 12:26:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralyn Cormallen
Eve Solecist wrote:
Aralyn Cormallen wrote:

Could be Great Wildlands stinking up the area, although Curse is high up on the NPC null resort list, so it isn't entirely a "nowhere intresting to go" situation.



What's with GW? What's the connection here?


Bear in mind, this is second-hand info as I've never been there (Heh, part of the problem), but it has only three stations, and they are all clustered together (literally, all within three jumps of each other) so there is only a handful of places for groups to base out of, and a single group can easily shut down all of them. Compare that to Curse, Syndicate, or even NPC pockets in Fountain, Delve or Pure Blind, and it makes it really sub-optimal as a place for small gangs to play. Venal is almost as bad (only 7 stations), but they are spread out enough that one group can't (easily) shut them all down at once.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#15 - 2015-05-08 12:30:56 UTC
That sounds like something, but feels disconnected.

What's more interesting is why minmatar space never attracted you in any way.
I guess many feel like that.

Must be reasons for minmatar highsec to be so silent and void of content...
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-05-08 12:34:58 UTC
WINMATAR has moved over to Amarr space. But they promise to come back with tropheys and dead heads of their enemies...

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#17 - 2015-05-08 12:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Minmatar space is brown, all the structures look like junk piles, systems routinely have 100+ au warps between gates, it's far from Amarr and Caldari space and the trade hub is the most overpriced and poorly stocked in the game.

It's the butthole of new eden, Hek is okay, but going any further into minmatar space is like flying through the ghetto.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#18 - 2015-05-08 12:41:17 UTC
Sorry but Winmatar seems irrelevant.

And no, Hek isn't okay. I know, because I'm there.
It's a social wasteland.

Numbers of locals are okay,
but the lack of activity isn't.

And yeah I have to admit that the nebulae add a certain feeling to the space,
that's completely different to all the other space.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#19 - 2015-05-08 12:47:42 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Some people report general decline in player activity but they are rumor mongers for sure! Cool

That's irrelevant to my question, actually.

People are leaving minmatar space for other space.

Why?


It's all your fault, you demon spawn from gank hell. You scared them all away.

Mr Epeen Cool
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#20 - 2015-05-08 12:55:18 UTC
Why don't you like Hek? It's filled with such colorful charactets?
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