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CCP employee policy on playing eve ?

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CCP Xhagen
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2011-12-05 17:15:36 UTC
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Denidil wrote:
i do think the "char death upon outing" is a little harsh. as long as you're behaving i don't think it is a big deal if people know your personal accounts.

unless of course it becomes a problem of harassment for the dev (ie everyone convo'ing them).


It is a bit harsh, but if a CCP employee maintained a steady name and identity, everyone would message them with 'Can I have free stuff'. No only that, but joining a corp would be a huge conflict of interest.

Also, think of the other members of that corp, if we assume that a known dev character will be followed to the end of the universe with war declarations.

CCP Xhagen | Associate Producer | @strangelocation
Inzax
#42 - 2011-12-05 17:34:28 UTC
Are CCP employees allowed to "out" their in game alt identities to each other?
Are they allowed to form corporations or alliances entirely or mostly consisting of CCP employees?
Are there any rules governing the level of interaction between CCP alt accounts with each other?
StillBorn CrackBaby
Doomheim
#43 - 2011-12-05 17:42:21 UTC
Akita T wrote:
How often do YOU tell people in EVE what company you work for in RL ?

Never, the skin flicks I star in are for many different companies. Oops
Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2011-12-05 18:04:24 UTC
And the other option, usually used by "well known" longtime players that start working for CCP and simply could not possibly keep it secret, seems to be to have their old player account "frozen" while working for CCP. Allowing them to pick them up again after leaving the company.

Usually resulting in a mad game of "guess his new ccp devname"....
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#45 - 2011-12-05 18:17:37 UTC
Lofty Rider comes to mind on the above statement.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
yumike
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-12-05 21:14:10 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Anyone else in here besides Akita T and Nova Fox remember the T20 thing?


In short, yes.
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#47 - 2011-12-05 21:23:32 UTC
Akita T wrote:


In case they get identified, they used to have two choices : stop playing that account for as long as they remain a CCP employee... or "become randomized" (think witness protection program for EVE characters - broken contact with all old friends, new name, fake new corp history, new face too for good measure).
Not sure if the second choice is still offered nowadays.


this would be a cool feature/character service for a few hundred million isk
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#48 - 2011-12-06 00:31:51 UTC
Just out of pure curiosity.

I assume that all employees that play with non-CCP accounts are required to inform Internal Affairs about this.

Could we have some figures (channeling CCP Diagoras) on how many of the CCP employees that play EvE Online with their own private account on a regular basis?

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Plave Okice
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2011-12-06 11:24:59 UTC
CCP Xhagen wrote:
Astrid Stjerna wrote:
Denidil wrote:
i do think the "char death upon outing" is a little harsh. as long as you're behaving i don't think it is a big deal if people know your personal accounts.

unless of course it becomes a problem of harassment for the dev (ie everyone convo'ing them).


It is a bit harsh, but if a CCP employee maintained a steady name and identity, everyone would message them with 'Can I have free stuff'. No only that, but joining a corp would be a huge conflict of interest.

Also, think of the other members of that corp, if we assume that a known dev character will be followed to the end of the universe with war declarations.


Is it still true that most devs who play are pirates?

Do you discuss playing between you?

Do you know who each others characters are?
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#50 - 2011-12-06 11:49:09 UTC
Plave Okice wrote:


Is it still true that most devs who play are pirates?

Do you discuss playing between you?

Do you know who each others characters are?


Or do they keep it to themself (and IA) so they can gank their bosses? ;)

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#51 - 2011-12-06 13:08:35 UTC
CCP Xhagen wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Raid'En wrote:
CCP Xhagen wrote:
should a character become outed as a CCP employee character either the character is deleted permanently or copied to a new characterID, that allows you to continue playing - but any and all social ties that character had have to be severed..

What?


Raid'En is obvious dev!
Sever him, sever him!

PS: CCP aren't allowed to grief and scam? ... Really?

Yub.


no griefing ok, but no scamming?

Are you... quite certain internal affairs does not hate you?
CCP Xhagen
C C P
C C P Alliance
#52 - 2011-12-06 15:24:23 UTC
Inzax wrote:
Are CCP employees allowed to "out" their in game alt identities to each other?
Are they allowed to form corporations or alliances entirely or mostly consisting of CCP employees?
Are there any rules governing the level of interaction between CCP alt accounts with each other?

Answers in the same order as the questions:
Yes - as long as other (non CCP employee) players don't know the identity of their characters.
Yes - as long as no person outside of CCP knows who is controlling the character.
No - none other than the EULA, TOS and the other rules as well as the 'don't do gray area things'.

Lors Dornick wrote:
Just out of pure curiosity.

I assume that all employees that play with non-CCP accounts are required to inform Internal Affairs about this.

Could we have some figures (channeling CCP Diagoras) on how many of the CCP employees that play EvE Online with their own private account on a regular basis?

Your assumption is correct. If a CCP employee is playing EVE, he or she HAS TO tell IA about it. IA WILL find all characters controlled by CCP employees, whether or not the employee wants it or not. It is better to report who your characters are than being 'found out' and IA has a chat with you.
I'm not comfortable with giving out figures of how many CCP employee accounts there are out there.

Plave Okice wrote:
Is it still true that most devs who play are pirates?

Do you discuss playing between you?

Do you know who each others characters are?

I believe it is now untrue that most devs are pirates, although that might have been true at some time in the past. Some are, I for example have one (of four characters) pirate character. It operates only in low sec though.

We do talk about what we do, share fits and other things.

Generally we know the character names of the people we work with in close proximity (i.e. physically sitting near to) but often we don't know the character names of our coworkers.

Kuronaga wrote:
no griefing ok, but no scamming?

Are you... quite certain internal affairs does not hate you?

No, IA loves us!

CCP Xhagen | Associate Producer | @strangelocation
flank steak
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-12-06 15:31:31 UTC
Do you ever get pissed off at your corpmates because they act like smart asses and just wanna say, "Hey buddy, I made this game"?
Derus Grobb
Shifting Suns Industries
DammFam
#54 - 2011-12-06 15:39:35 UTC
THEY LIVE AMONG US
Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#55 - 2011-12-06 15:42:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Khaos
Utter rubbish .... we all know how the system works but your a fool to think they are just playing normal accounts ..

How many Alliance Leaders have been staff members of CCP Blink

Maybe its not at the T20 level but buying a few extra 100 of this and that before a patch comes out or a proposed change.

It may only be a few but there are bad apples in every bucket ....
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Captain Mastiff
#56 - 2011-12-06 15:49:46 UTC
CCP Xhagen wrote:
Ammzi wrote:
Raid'En wrote:
CCP Xhagen wrote:
should a character become outed as a CCP employee character either the character is deleted permanently or copied to a new characterID, that allows you to continue playing - but any and all social ties that character had have to be severed..

What?


Raid'En is obvious dev!
Sever him, sever him!

PS: CCP aren't allowed to grief and scam? ... Really?

Yub.


If scamming is legitimate in the game why are CCP characters not allowed to partake in such a "legit" game mechanic? Surely if you ban yourselves from doing then it should be the same for everyone else?

It's not like we know you are dev character or not so it can't be a public image thing, why so? Do you think it's one of the lowest form of gameplay?
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#57 - 2011-12-06 15:59:03 UTC
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Tanya Powers wrote:
Son Callar wrote:
Hi,

I'm quite interested to know if CCPs policy on their employees playing eve is available somewhere or if anyone knows how they handle that ?

For example are CCP employees allowed to let people know they work for CCP, are they allowed to join player corporations, if an employee has an already active character are they allowed to continue playing on that character etc.

I'm interested purely for personal reasons, it is not that I know of a CCP employee ingame or am trying to put out dirt on someone, just interested on how its handled, if anyone knows.

Thank you !


Simple, they have the right to use your credit card to pay their own sub, they can pick your isk to buy ships you will never be able to use, when they fart dozens of plex appear in their hangar and they can instantly kill you just by eye balling you.

You should fear those, they're nastier than Goons but not strong has PL, they're now training supercaps and you should know also when you take 45D to train stuff they take 45mn afk cofee shop and fresh beer.

Roll


"Eve Balling"

Is that like a power word?

Becuase someone who can just point you and say die has a distinct advantage in combat. Twisted



HOHOHO, you should have figured I was being sarcastic, witch I like most times I recognise it.

What people asking this kind of question or posting this kind of thread must ask themselves without bring new protonic theories whatsoever is: what's their interest on using/abusing their position/job to win something or show something in the game?

I know the answer: NOTHING
On the other side, participate, create live events, be on the same side of the corner than everyone else when it comes to deliver or eat the fire that YES, fracking yes it's good for troops moral, for community moral, for community/company relationship.

People should start taking their pills and stop farting silly theories.
Nika Dekaia
#58 - 2011-12-06 16:05:48 UTC
Isn't voice chat a problem - at least for the more prominent Devs? Many corps require voice chat at least for corp events or PvP. I guess most people would knwo who they talk to over voice if it would have been e.g. Soundwave or StevieSG.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#59 - 2011-12-06 16:37:13 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
Akita T wrote:


In case they get identified, they used to have two choices : stop playing that account for as long as they remain a CCP employee... or "become randomized" (think witness protection program for EVE characters - broken contact with all old friends, new name, fake new corp history, new face too for good measure).
Not sure if the second choice is still offered nowadays.


this would be a cool feature/character service for a few hundred million isk


Already there are too few ways to take revenge or hold people accountable for their actions. This would be a terrible feature.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#60 - 2011-12-06 16:56:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
arcca jeth wrote:
Akita T wrote:


In case they get identified, they used to have two choices : stop playing that account for as long as they remain a CCP employee... or "become randomized" (think witness protection program for EVE characters - broken contact with all old friends, new name, fake new corp history, new face too for good measure).
Not sure if the second choice is still offered nowadays.


this would be a cool feature/character service for a few hundred million isk


Already there are too few ways to take revenge or hold people accountable for their actions. This would be a terrible feature.


QFT

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