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WoW refugees and the future of EVE
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GenericForumAlt 1267389
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-29 18:47:19 UTC
I've been seeing a lot more complaining than usual about the WoW refugees recently. Seems it spiked when CCP announced permanent ship skins. The people who are so quick to complain about how entitled the wow community is are in a way entitled themselves. CCP is a company and making the game more appealing or easier gets subs. I'm in a new player friendly corp in nullsec and our numbers have been swelling with people completely new to EVE, its almost 2 a day at this point.

We don't get vets unsubbing and most are happy with the changes that are happening. EVE isn't "your" sandbox its "a" sandbox, yeah yeah my 15 dollars a month blah blah same argument the people in WoW use. I think its time to come to terms with the fact that EVE Online is not the same game it was 10 years ago and it will never be. Ship skins, clothing, refined UI some of the most heated topics recently are all massive revenue drivers for other companies. Of course CCP is going to add them and to think they won't try to make revenue because of the vocal minority bitching about it on the forums is just idiotic.

CCP isn't going to hold their game and company profits back because you feel dissatisfied with a change that has no impact on gameplay, get over it.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-04-29 18:52:19 UTC
GenericForumAlt 1267389 wrote:
I've been seeing a lot more complaining than usual about the WoW refugees recently. Seems it spiked when CCP announced permanent ship skins. The people who are so quick to complain about how entitled the wow community is are in a way entitled themselves. CCP is a company and making the game more appealing or easier gets subs. I'm in a new player friendly corp in nullsec and our numbers have been swelling with people completely new to EVE, its almost 2 a day at this point.

We don't get vets unsubbing and most are happy with the changes that are happening. EVE isn't "your" sandbox its "a" sandbox, yeah yeah my 15 dollars a month blah blah same argument the people in WoW use. I think its time to come to terms with the fact that EVE Online is not the same game it was 10 years ago and it will never be. Ship skins, clothing, refined UI some of the most heated topics recently are all massive revenue drivers for other companies. Of course CCP is going to add them and to think they won't try to make revenue because of the vocal minority bitching about it on the forums is just idiotic.

CCP isn't going to hold their game and company profits back because you feel dissatisfied with a change that has no impact on gameplay, get over it.


Catering to the same player base as most other MMO is not a safe bet. Look at all the wow killers...
Col Arran
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-04-29 18:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Col Arran
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Catering to the same player base as most other MMO is not a safe bet. Look at all the wow killers...



Normally I would agree with this sentiment but if you look at it they all tried to kill wow with games that when you stand back and look at it, were basically wow. I think EVE is in a bit of a different position here or else I would agree with your viewpoint.

If anything CCP is trying to cater to not exactly the same player-base just attempting to get some overlap going on.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#4 - 2015-04-29 18:54:40 UTC  |  Edited by: DaReaper
i don;t mind some of the changes. the learning curve in eve is steep, but giving someone more then a dogy paddle before tossing them intot he deep end is good.

And more wow players, more people to shoo tin the face.

Eve has room to devlope in ways to attract people without losing itself. The hot red head who will rip your balls off if you **** her off, can change her dress if she wishes.. or put on makeup.. but she will still rip your balls off.

as long as eve stays single shard, uninstanced, open world, and dark. she will be fine. you can dull some of the edges for noobs, and still keep her core

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-04-29 19:02:28 UTC
The more players in EvE the better for the future of the game, period. More players = more money = more content = more people to shoot in the face.

Come WoW refugees, come to the darkness. Come, see what online gaming REALLY is.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-04-29 19:04:34 UTC
Freya Sertan wrote:
The more players in EvE the better for the future of the game, period. More players = more money = more content = more people to shoot in the face.

Come WoW refugees, come to the darkness. Come, see what online gaming REALLY is.


Agreed.

Been around since the beginning.
Solecist Project
#7 - 2015-04-29 19:06:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
We're the top of the MMO food chain.

If the dumbest, but still experienced EVE players joined WoW they'd cry as well.

We'd own them.

Entitlement.... lol

It's Elitism!


Also: lol npc coward, go back to wow.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2015-04-29 19:06:17 UTC
I'm sorry but I guess I don't get what point you are trying to make here?

honestly I see mostly praise, there is some criticism but nearly all of what I have seen is deserved. And maybe a few "waah! damage control icon change" but I half see those as a joke. Overall I think CCP is doing a great job, the new release schedule worried me a bit at first, but so far they have been delivering a bunch of stuff each time and most of it is good. I saw a great post the other day about how CCP had 4 major problems going on at the same time and that is why the summer of rage happened.

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter
Solecist Project
#9 - 2015-04-29 19:08:28 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
i don;t mind some of the changes. the learning curve in eve is steep, but giving someone more then a dogy paddle before tossing them intot he deep end is good.

And more wow players, more people to shoo tin the face.

Eve has room to devlope in ways to attract people without losing itself. The hot red head who will rip your balls off if you **** her off, can change her dress if she wishes.. or put on makeup.. but she will still rip your balls off.

as long as eve stays single shard, uninstanced, open world, and dark. she will be fine. you can dull some of the edges for noobs, and still keep her core

Dude... I'm blonde right now. :p

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-04-29 19:10:32 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
i don;t mind some of the changes. the learning curve in eve is steep, but giving someone more then a dogy paddle before tossing them intot he deep end is good.

And more wow players, more people to shoo tin the face.

Eve has room to devlope in ways to attract people without losing itself. The hot red head who will rip your balls off if you **** her off, can change her dress if she wishes.. or put on makeup.. but she will still rip your balls off.

as long as eve stays single shard, uninstanced, open world, and dark. she will be fine. you can dull some of the edges for noobs, and still keep her core

Dude... I'm blonde right now. :p


Yeah. I'm the hot redhead.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Solecist Project
#11 - 2015-04-29 19:11:38 UTC
AWWW .... cutey. ;)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-04-29 19:16:36 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
We're the top of the MMO food chain.

If the dumbest, but still experienced EVE players joined WoW they'd cry as well.

We'd own them.

Entitlement.... lol

It's Elitism!


Also: lol npc coward, go back to wow.


I really hope you don't really believe what you typed...
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-04-29 19:25:38 UTC
We're like the masterrace of the masterrace?
Etaine O Conghaile
#14 - 2015-04-29 19:25:45 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
i don;t mind some of the changes. the learning curve in eve is steep, but giving someone more then a dogy paddle before tossing them intot he deep end is good.

And more wow players, more people to shoo tin the face.

Eve has room to devlope in ways to attract people without losing itself. The hot red head who will rip your balls off if you **** her off, can change her dress if she wishes.. or put on makeup.. but she will still rip your balls off.

as long as eve stays single shard, uninstanced, open world, and dark. she will be fine. you can dull some of the edges for noobs, and still keep her core

O.o

A Thukker, Krusual, Brutor, Sebiestor, Vherokior, Nefantar and a Starkmanir are in a shuttle together.

Who's flying the shuttle?

C.O.N.C.O.R.D.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#15 - 2015-04-29 19:26:49 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
We're the top of the MMO food chain.

If the dumbest, but still experienced EVE players joined WoW they'd cry as well.

We'd own them.

Entitlement.... lol

It's Elitism!


Also: lol npc coward, go back to wow.


I really hope you don't really believe what you typed...



tough it is kinda true. i joined another game a few years ago and tried it. i would up killing someone and going 'great wheres my loot? what do you mean he keeps his crap? then what was the point? xp? pish"

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Luna Arindale
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#16 - 2015-04-29 19:30:35 UTC
Cosmetic items are inherently harmless, atleast with these ship skins people can actually see them and they aren't locked down to character portraits. However while I might profit off of it eventually, a $25 something ship skin for a frigate is a bit crazy.
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-04-29 19:32:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Freya Sertan
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
We're the top of the MMO food chain.

If the dumbest, but still experienced EVE players joined WoW they'd cry as well.

We'd own them.

Entitlement.... lol

It's Elitism!


Also: lol npc coward, go back to wow.


I really hope you don't really believe what you typed...


People who play EvE have probably played WoW and realized that the candy coated, pastel world of Azeroth is a joke. There is no actual conflict, no reason to even be there, really. The players in EvE make the game what it is.

We ARE the apex of online gaming; especially when compared against the competition.

That having been said, though, I welcome the WoW transplants as I stated above. Any chance to get someone into a real online game is a chance I'll take.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
Solecist Project
#18 - 2015-04-29 19:33:02 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
We're the top of the MMO food chain.

If the dumbest, but still experienced EVE players joined WoW they'd cry as well.

We'd own them.

Entitlement.... lol

It's Elitism!


Also: lol npc coward, go back to wow.


I really hope you don't really believe what you typed...



tough it is kinda true. i joined another game a few years ago and tried it. i would up killing someone and going 'great wheres my loot? what do you mean he keeps his crap? then what was the point? xp? pish"


Exactly.
EVE was the first ever MMO I tried,
because it met my minimum requirements for playing.

(never got to play UO)

When I tried ArcheAge (my second and last "MMO") I kind of loved it for the scenery.
I could run around in underwear, pick up flowers and enjoy the scenery ...

... but WTF, it's so damn easy and boring I felt like a hippy.

Killed NPCs ten level above myself ... too easy.
Can't even kill people everywhere. No constant danger.

The skills I aquired in EVE make other games childsplay.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#19 - 2015-04-29 19:34:21 UTC
And I almost thought people don't share my viewpoint anymore....

How stupid. ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Freya Sertan
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-04-29 19:36:30 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
And I almost thought people don't share my viewpoint anymore....

How stupid. ^_^


I had a co-worker tell me once, "We play EvE because it's better than any other game out there and by proxy, we're better as well."

I couldn't argue.

New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.

Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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