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Ship SKIN prices are interesting.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#101 - 2015-05-02 22:45:26 UTC
Cyrus Doul wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Shinzhi Xadi wrote:
So, has anybody bothered to calculate how many plex you would have to buy to get all the skins for a single faction?

Tell you what. You figure out how many PLEX (and years) it will take to train for all the ships that you can skin in a single race and then I can laugh at what a stupid statement you just made.

Mr Epeen Cool


My character date is jan 27 2008 and im just now inserting gallente titan and minmatar titan. Granted this character can fly them competently sp wise (I have no idea what im doing in non caps other then a purifier) So I am going to go with 87 Plex

To get all current skins takes 332125 AUR, Biggest package you can get is 21200 aur for 100 dollars. you need to do that 15.66 times. so 1500 dollars in that bundle, one 50 dollar package for 10600 points and 1 20 dollar package to give you 4035 points

so get all skins = 1570 dollars
have a character that can fly all ships well = 1735 dollars


Only current skins. Not really great choice when you are limited to single ship models and you don't even have tech 2 or pirate ships included. Except one police issue frigate that is going to be flewn fairly often.

There is more coming?

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Casey Ambraelle
VoidRunner's Inc.
#102 - 2015-05-03 03:34:26 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
CCP gave 5500 aurum to every active account.

Am I the only one that saved some?



I keep seeing this mentioned when did CCP award this? I've been sub'd for the last 7 months have never used Aurum and have a 0 balance when I look in the store.
Anise Tig'res
Doomheim
#103 - 2015-05-03 04:38:45 UTC
For anyone curious, the full price for the collection of EVE SKINS is $1023 Brittish Pounds $1550.00 USD or $1974.00 AUD.

The amount of PLEX required to purchase these items for AUR, is 94.89 at 1 PLEX for 3500 AUR.

The total AUR cost, is 332115.
Kamala
Doomheim
#104 - 2015-05-03 09:21:17 UTC
Am I the only one who doesn't care about ship skins and will probably never buy one?
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#105 - 2015-05-03 09:26:05 UTC
Kamala wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care about ship skins and will probably never buy one?


Nope, same here.
Varrgas Arthurus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#106 - 2015-05-04 04:43:47 UTC
What the problem ?

CCP give us some tools to play Space Ship Barbie and some player enjoy this.
corebloodbrothers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#107 - 2015-05-04 08:51:23 UTC
I dont care much for them, as eve drives me in other ways, yet i do see the beauty of it , and know alot of players are atracted or invest in that. Price tagging vanity is hard. To cheap and all has it, and it looses appeal. To high not enough sáles, but exclusiveness drives people ofc also.

The current big shows options and opend a can of worms. Ccp is both fixing the bug and looking into the future of skins, unwanted thr players showed ccp what can be done with it, and that rabbit is now out o f the hat, eve if they close the use.

For me personally i hope ccp takes this as a chance, and uses the options to achieve both, accomodate players, and make a money model that allows them income wihtout touching the core of eve and not introducing golden bullets,

Just dreaming as a person, ultimate customer dream, not csm or ccp pov:

1. Hand all back price of skin in aurum for all skins right now
2. Turn 30 days skins into a lower price range permanent skins, 50-100 mill isk, and also reimburst those in aurom and add them too the store.
3. Re introduce skins but per hull type, so a skin for a tempest can be used on all bs. Same pricing
4. Future releases then can work liek this and add exclusive stuff in 2 addition ways,1. Is exclisve limited for 1 shiptype, liek aquafe domi,2. Exlcusive in amounts released, limited editions. You can mix 1 and 2, which ultimately brings you tourney skins, limited and for 1 ship.

That would be my personal dream as a marketing peep, show balls, think outside the box, dard, and in long run make cuatomers haply and make good money
Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2015-05-04 13:38:09 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
It's a vanity item that can put money in ccp's pocket but has no impact on the actual ship. Why would I care about the cost as if I don't get one it makes no difference to me at all.

Because it shows a lack of respect for the players to try to charge $30 for a single skin for a single ship. RIOT games does not respect its players. I expected CCP to learn its lesson and not go that path.
lost packet
Alpha Flight
#109 - 2015-05-04 18:58:03 UTC  |  Edited by: lost packet
Anise Tig'res wrote:
For anyone curious, the full price for the collection of EVE SKINS is $1023 Brittish Pounds $1550.00 USD or $1974.00 AUD.

The amount of PLEX required to purchase these items for AUR, is 94.89 at 1 PLEX for 3500 AUR.

The total AUR cost, is 332115.


$1023 British pounds.
^

Pretty much turned them off straight away.

Alpha Flight are recruiting pilots | Almost Broken are recruiting corporations
Asinar
The Hotdog
#110 - 2015-05-15 02:41:43 UTC
A ship skin costs more than a months subscription...see anything wrong there?
I've paid subscription maybe 3 times during my 6 years of Eve. Eve is really not worth paying for.

If a skin would cost 2 euros, I would consider it but then again, no skins exist for the ships I fly.
I don't like grinding ISK either so...


Thx a lot but I PASS!

Sounds like Train simulator DLCs but even less content.




Is someone going for the Darwin award?
Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#111 - 2015-05-15 03:57:52 UTC
Asinar wrote:
A ship skin costs more than a months subscription...see anything wrong there?
I've paid subscription maybe 3 times during my 6 years of Eve. Eve is really not worth paying for.

So, the actual game isn't worth paying for, yet you are complaining that you want to buy imaginary space pixels to outfit your ship within that game....

Why exactly should CCP pay any thought to your concerns when you don't think the game is worth paying for. Amazing.
Oraac Ensor
#112 - 2015-05-15 07:53:28 UTC
Anise Tig'res wrote:
$1023 Brittish Pounds

£1023 GBP

I'm feeling a bit picky today - only had 4½ hours sleep.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#113 - 2015-05-15 14:28:05 UTC
They are the price they are because they are either permanent or month long licenses. So CCP has to have high prices or they would not pay for the development time.

The previous version where every "skinned" ship type was an individual item in the database not viable because of database bloating and technical overhead required every time they wanted to make changes to ship stats.

I once bought some aurum token from someone in Period Basis. Pimped out my alt a bit. She looks a bit more fashionable these days. But I doubt I'll be paying $20 for a ship skin. I like my pants sub $1000, thx.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#114 - 2015-05-15 16:11:01 UTC
Roberta Gastoni wrote:
Yeah but there are substantial difference in the system and the path that lead to it.

1) They had to reprogram almost entirely the ship rendering system and how it works in space
2) People can actually see your skin space
3) The default ship skins are fine and beautyfull anyway
4) Clothes came at the cost of real content, something that's not happening at this time
5) People actually asked for ship skins


quoting this so it doesn't get lost in the BS lol
Joe Atei
Aes Dei Asher
#115 - 2015-05-15 19:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Atei
Moac Tor wrote:
Asinar wrote:
A ship skin costs more than a months subscription...see anything wrong there?
I've paid subscription maybe 3 times during my 6 years of Eve. Eve is really not worth paying for.

So, the actual game isn't worth paying for, yet you are complaining that you want to buy imaginary space pixels to outfit your ship within that game....

Why exactly should CCP pay any thought to your concerns when you don't think the game is worth paying for. Amazing.

probably because he's part of the reason why people buy plexes (which is a safe assumption based on his comment). Also, human capital is usually already paid by the time this happens. lowering prices usually bring in more money because of an increase in trade.

but i suspect CCP's decision on this matter is a calculated decision because of people like me who use isk to get his aur which in turn guides the market to purchase more plex because more demand for plex in the virtual world will increase its value in isk thus providing more incentive for people with disposable income to purchase more plex.

Regardless, money is real power. Unlike the rigged democracy system over here in the US. Don't like something about a company you have been supporting, then vote with your wallet. Don't buy plex, don't pay for the sub, etc. Cancel your account and provide the reason why. Enough people do it, CCP will change. If you do but they don't change and don't go out of business, you were a minority in that situation and the majority didn't share that view with you. Other reasons need not apply because that's basic common sense and at the end of the day it isn't that big of a deal if no action is being taken on the consumer's end.

I also suspect eve is in a similar boat to the alcohol industry, a large portion of their income coming from addicts. this includes people who purchase a lot of plex via isk. I know I'm one of them.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#116 - 2015-05-15 20:08:54 UTC
Casey Ambraelle wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
CCP gave 5500 aurum to every active account.

Am I the only one that saved some?



I keep seeing this mentioned when did CCP award this? I've been sub'd for the last 7 months have never used Aurum and have a 0 balance when I look in the store.


Years ago around when the NEX was first implemented. I cant remember if it was to partially soothe the chapped buttocks left from the Summer of Rage or not.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Robur Maximus
Sonnenlegion
Shadow Cartel
#117 - 2015-05-15 20:53:08 UTC
Yes...If someone really wants to use his RL money for that kind of stuff, I encourage that. It pays for the development of the game I love.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#118 - 2015-05-15 21:48:03 UTC
Robur Maximus wrote:
Yes...If someone really wants to use his RL money for that kind of stuff, I encourage that. It pays for the development of the game I love.


Exactly how I see it as well. I donate to several open source projects because I like them and respect the time and effort invested in them. CCP now does a great job of keeping the game alive, fresh, dynamic and bug free which is why I pay a subscription. But they also often go a step further and provide great additions to the EVE Universe which they simply do not have to do... like organizing alliance tournaments, charity drives, putting an extra effort to provide us with Scope news reports, API tools...

So yeah, if another not-competitor but the most "popular" and known MMO can charge a subscription AND require you to pay full game price again each time they publish an expansion, in my opinion, CCP has full right to charge for vanity items.

And the prices are decent as well this time, compared to paying $60 to have your character's eye poked out and for slapping a piece of metal... something... instead.


As for the Summer of Rage, it was mainly about pay-to-win model that somehow crawled in as a thought. You can clearly see that it was not about $60 monocles, but about "golden ammo" and a focus on a cash shop in a time when the game needed a lot of fixing and development. You can read it here : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1536065

The game is in much better state now and, more importantly, the development of the game is in much better state now. There is no "golden ammo" philosophy in sight and the vanity items now actually complement the game while not costing too much. In my opinion, difference between the Summer of Rage and now is so significant that these two periods of EVE's life can't even be compared.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#119 - 2015-05-16 00:28:18 UTC
I pay my subs with money.

It's so damn cheap for what I get ...
... I'd feel ashamed not to.
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