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[JOVE OVSERVATORIES] Effect of Entosis on Observatories

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Deceiver's Echo
Imperial Rite Mission Rens
#21 - 2015-05-07 02:50:52 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions.

need help with this one. the only thing that happened was this but i'm not sure how it ties in with names defining perceptions

It is easy to understand.

"Minmatar"
"Amarr"

We are all residents of New Eden, yet there are those who judge based on where we are from, our lineage, what names they associate with us.

It is a simple observation. This is evidence of what it leads to, and a generalization that fits all of us.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#22 - 2015-05-07 03:09:31 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions.

need help with this one. the only thing that happened was this but i'm not sure how it ties in with names defining perceptions

Respectfully, names are illusions from the beginning. Names are a sort of navigational shorthand, allowing our minds to associate particular concepts with other particular concepts.

In the Totality, I am not "Aria Jenneth," or "Vesper," or any other name. I'm ... sort of a zone of particles that interacts in a lot of different ways with other zones.

And that's about as close to reality as names come. Naming groups is at least as erroneous as naming individuals, and maybe more so.

For example: I gather that Chamberlain Karsoth has now been identified as a Sani cultist. An identification of him as Amarr would be disputed, from current points of view, but he was clearly "Amarr" at the time. Similarly, we now know that the Republic was preparing the Elder fleet for war on the Empire, but the Republic puts any such intention off on "repeatedly disavowed splinter groups."

As you see, being ruled by "names" doesn't need to be limited to proper nouns.

This name is good. This name is bad. This name is me. That name is you. This other name over here is a sandwich.

... which you probably assumed meant it was food, right?

We let our perceptions be ruled by names. The impressive idea here is that the Jove somehow don't, which would be pretty amazing if it were true.

An entire civilization of Elder Visionaries, in which semiotic communication is not accepted as a reality unto itself? ... that would be ... astonishing, if they achieved it.
Kadeshi Pride
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#23 - 2015-05-09 13:22:46 UTC
Has anyone thought of running an Entosis Link on a Drifter Battleship?
Kerena Alabel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-09 15:27:22 UTC
Kadeshi Pride wrote:
Has anyone thought of running an Entosis Link on a Drifter Battleship?



Yes. it doesnt work. And our pilot died quite spectacularly. Such is the price of research.
Threll Lornax
The Sleepless Vanguard
#25 - 2015-05-09 16:04:50 UTC
Has there been confirmed attempts at using the entosis link on certain sleeper structures? I have myself tried in class 6 anomaly "Core Bastion", but without result. The already somewhat vocal structures in "The Mirror" comes to mind, not to mention certain locations in the shattered systems that were found recently.
Threll Lornax
The Sleepless Vanguard
#26 - 2015-05-11 11:38:09 UTC
In comment to my own last post, I had the opportunity to test the entosis link on sleeper enclaves in The Mirror. Sadly, Without result. I suspect the ability to interface with the Jove observatories was pure luck.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#27 - 2015-05-11 12:00:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Threll Lornax wrote:
In comment to my own last post, I had the opportunity to test the entosis link on sleeper enclaves in The Mirror. Sadly, Without result. I suspect the ability to interface with the Jove observatories was pure luck.


Incompatibility, some defence mechanisms, or maybe data banks were purged, there is more explanations as you can see. Having in mind that Jove observatories were damaged and in a state of partial deconstruction, I personally suspect defence mechanism failure.
Sahriah BloodStone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2015-05-11 18:45:59 UTC
This is an excellent compilation of work. I hope someone is gathering an archive of this data

If said parties need assistance in archiving the data please contact me. I would be most interested in assisting.

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "

Michael Pawlicki
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry.
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#29 - 2015-05-11 19:55:43 UTC
Markus Error wrote:
Yes, please. Do try and take on the Jove. I could use some amusement.


You. I like you. In other news, the AJ initiative has begun keeping an eye on Unidentified Wormholes in the cluster in an attempt to find the good Dr. Tukoss. I suggest we keep our eyes out for any changes,
bardghost Isu
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2015-05-31 09:53:33 UTC  |  Edited by: bardghost Isu
Aria Jenneth wrote:

We let our perceptions be ruled by names. The impressive idea here is that the Jove somehow don't, which would be pretty amazing if it were true.

Well That Would Explain The Naming Of The Drifters As They Share The Names, Apollo Tyrannos or Artemis Tyrannos. It Sounds More Like A Rank To Me And Also Tie In That They Are An Old Jove Faction
Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-06-08 05:07:41 UTC
Another piece of the puzzle retrieved.

Gleaned Information wrote:

YC105-5-29 - So fragile, these minds. So fleeting, their crimes.

YC106-12-20 - Step One: Build a Better Ant.

YC107-09-15 - Step Two: Kick over The Ant Hill.

YC108-09-26 - Step Three: Assess.

YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.

YC110-06-10 - Step Four: Reiterate.

YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulence'?

YC112-12-13 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Infiltration Disclosure. Subtype: Wedge Mirror. Actor: True Power. Targeted Interstice: CONCORD - Capsuleer Cohort. Motivation:...

YC113-07-07 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Resource Shift. Subtype: Need Further Data. Actor: Need Further Data. Targeted Interstice: 4 Potentials. 1)...

YC114-05-14 - They are not yet acknowledging the pattern.

YC115-03-22 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Apoptosis...

YC116-01-01 - Disruption Event Identified. Type: Cathexis...

YC117-01-12 - They could not predict this?

YC111 - Capsuleer espionage detected.

YC108 - 'Titan' class vessel detected. Receiving data.

YC112 - Sansha activity registered.

YC107 - Destination: Vak'Atioth.

YC110 - "Thanks sweetie, but that's all right. I'll only be a few minutes."

YC105 - Location: Rethan. Class: Yacht. Maker: Viziam.

Champion of the Knights of the General Discussion

Thunderdome

Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-06-08 05:09:32 UTC
I don't believe this was shared either.
Almost lost my ship getting this one.

Gleaned Information wrote:

YC9-11-03 - "Now if you look to section eight of the report, you will see that the new system provides an unprecedented level of harmony. The new electrochemical system eliminates undesirable reactions and emotions in 34% of testers. With further development, I am certain we can truly make everyone happy."

YC37-08-23 - Gamma Enclave recently available personnel: 44 cybernetics experts, 32 geneticists, 9 materials scientists, 6 sociologists. Awaiting kitz assignment.

YC110-10-03 - …rbinger of hope. I am the sword of the righteous, and to all who hear my words I say this: What you give to thi…"

YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data."

Champion of the Knights of the General Discussion

Thunderdome

Specia1 K
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#33 - 2015-06-08 05:13:08 UTC
Gleaned Information wrote:

YC37-09-01 - CONCORD Resolution D/912/37 passes with unilateral support from all five empires.

YC44-06-03 - Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'EOM' casualty causation: est 78,944,293,285. Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.

YC104-12-09 - Preliminary forecast: Cohort 'SN' resurgence likelihood: 96.44% Action advisory: Continued observation, Non-interference.

YC106-03-22 - Advanced materials technology saturation at threshold. Implement stage two technology surveillance.

YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.

YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.

YC111-03-11 - RT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALERT HIGH ALE

YC111-03-27 - Fullerene technology saturation at threshold. Implement stage three technology surveillance.

YC113-03-18 - Alert: Intercept of encrypted traffic [source Imperial-Internal] reference keywords 'analysis, implant, recovered, subject, body'. Inferred keywords: autopsy, Anoikis, sleeper, breakthrough, disease

YC114-03-20 - New research data collated. Source: Eram spider. Create new index.

YC117-02-09 - Cloaking system failure. Proximity alert. Initiate system shutdown.


Champion of the Knights of the General Discussion

Thunderdome

TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#34 - 2015-06-08 14:42:29 UTC
Specia1 K wrote:
Gleaned Information wrote:
YC113-03-18 - Alert: Intercept of encrypted traffic [source Imperial-Internal] reference keywords 'analysis, implant, recovered, subject, body'. Inferred keywords: autopsy, Anoikis, sleeper, breakthrough, disease




Seems the introduction of the new element brought by the sleepers did surprise even the Jove.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Louanne Barros
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-06-08 21:39:11 UTC
Specia1 K wrote:
Gleaned Information wrote:

YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.

YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.


It's fairly obvious, but just so that someone has said it;
YC111-02-06 was when the 'Band of Brothers' alliance collapsed, and 632866070 was their serial number in the public CONCORD alliance database.

YC106-11-17 was when CONCORD first recognized (and assigned numbers to) capsuleer alliances. 'Capsuleer cohort' seems synonymous with Alliance in these gleaned fragments.
Daaaain
Innocent Friend
Pandemic Horde
#36 - 2015-06-09 00:40:32 UTC
Do location affects the message?
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#37 - 2015-06-11 00:14:23 UTC
Louanne Barros wrote:
Specia1 K wrote:
Gleaned Information wrote:

YC106-11-17 - Capsuleer cohort tracking system implemented. Receiving data.

YC111-02-06 - Catastrophic collapse of Cohort 632866070. Cascade effect tracking algorithm active. Capsuleer Cohort vulnerability documented for further analysis.


It's fairly obvious, but just so that someone has said it;
YC111-02-06 was when the 'Band of Brothers' alliance collapsed, and 632866070 was their serial number in the public CONCORD alliance database.

YC106-11-17 was when CONCORD first recognized (and assigned numbers to) capsuleer alliances. 'Capsuleer cohort' seems synonymous with Alliance in these gleaned fragments.


Nice find, thx.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

bardghost Isu
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2015-06-23 21:28:34 UTC
Gleaned Information wrote:


YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.


YC111-03-10 - 'Defect-mediated turbulence'?



1) There Are 5 Current Drifter W-holes... Maybe More. (But Virions ? Another Name For Drifters ?)

2) Seylin Incident
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#39 - 2015-06-24 02:49:27 UTC
This is wonderful stuff. I'd like to thank all the pilots that posted for sharing this data with us working to explore and understand what's happening.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-07-02 10:35:39 UTC
Gleaned Information wrote:


YC109-06-23 - Models indicate that virions have spread beyond those five systems.


Sorry to necro this topic, but historical records indicate June of YC 109 was about the time the Brothers of Freedom movement was fomenting unrest across the State. Given the tone of other Gleaned Information sheets, they could be treating the BoF as a pathology.

The actions and ideologies of the Brotherhood of Freedom were antecedent to Provist reformists two years later. The Jovians knew a lot, and said little - did they anticipate the Empyrean War? Clearly some things, like the Seylinn Incident, caught them by surprise.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.