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As a follow-up, here is a radical idea:

rework probing itself. As yourself, what does switching to a different map to combat probe add to a game? Nothing really.

scanning/probing should be a seamless experience. Right now, as you jump into system, and if you have anomalies, sigs enabled, you see them around you as you look around your ship. Red/green icons on your gameplay window, like in this screenshot.

Unknown ship/structure contacts should be like that as well, and if you deploy probes, they should be probed out seamlessly and automatically by your ship computer. The only variable should be time.

You jump in, your ship computer picks up a list of contacts, they are displayed on your screen as icons and in your probe window as a list. You deploy probes, hit scan, little timers start ticking down each contact individually in your scan window, gradually signal strength bars are filling up, and eventually, contacts become 100% green.

Variety in tech 1, tech 2, faction probes should probably affect speed of system scanning, and/or how many sigs can a ship computer work on at once.

And you could probably leave manual scanning in the game as well for those times when pilot skill is required.

But really, with new eye candy map, automatic scanning would work better.

I'd think getting burned out of your wh for being bears would at least keep you quiet for a few days. WH space is about being the opposite of lazy. Scanning is about the opposite of lazy. You want automatic anything.... go to null. (It occurs to me that there are quite a few folks willing to help you get there)

Seriously, every cry for automation in scanning gets us one step closer to eve being a 'warp to anom' only game.

For those that like to scan - there are scannable signatures.
For those that don't like to scan - there are anoms.
For those that don't like to scan but want to warp to scannable signatures - there is practice.

CCP has already provided everything needed on this issue.

Is it me or is the option to color lines totally gone from the new map?

In the old one i like to have my lines colored by standings and stars by something else. I can't do the same in the new map (either at all or the option for it is too well hidden :S )

The map needs to be tied to the overview like the current map.

If i see someone within one AU of a celestial beacon, i want to be able to go to my probing alt and open my map, click that beacon in the overview and have it highlight in my map so i know where to put my box - like the current one does. Currently i have to spend time clicking on every cluster to see where the beacon is.

Heres a crazy thought, why not hold back on iterations until your new 'effort' is at least as functional as your last one?

Cant believe i had to say that.

Actually, i can.

Ditto to all the comments regarding scanning (probe, d-, etc). As it stands, the new map with all the lovely bells and whistles is not an improvement, rather a detriment. Simple solution is to maintain both maps, or allow one to toggle between them. The new map is a dealbreaker.

I've read all the posts on this thread (up to this point) and they do make some valid points about the new map versus the old one.

I haven't encountered posts that acknowledge where we are heading. Most are looking back at how easy it was to do this or that, and how we can't do this or that anymore in the ways we were so good at doing.

Big changes are coming, remember. We're all in a solid warp directly out of our comfort zones, and we've been told ahead of time that our future in New Eden will become much less cozy. We've been fairly told: Caroline's Star, Drifter Technology, Thera, the changes to Structures. And, most relevent to this topic, Phase 2 of Sov warfare.

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"When Sovereignty structures exit their reinforcement period approximately 48 hours after the initial attack, they spark the beginning of a new capture event in which players fight over Command Node anomalies that spawn at random points throughout the constellation.

These Nodes have an equal chance to appear in any system in the constellation, regardless of who owns the Sovereignty in the other systems."

So, maybe we'll find that we actually do need to see more than just our current solar system, so we can see what's going on in our constellation.

Maybe, there will be more urgently needed data visible via icons that will "pop out" in vibrant color. Data that indicate more lethal threats or opportunities than how many pilots have jumped in the last 24h along our route.

I'm just thinking, might it be possible that these things that are different about the new map are there because they have to be, in order to make room for what's coming at us?

I do believe CCP is working their map bug fixes into and along side the new content they'll be challenging us with this year. It's certain we're in for a big shake up, so we might want to look forward, and learn everything we can about this new way of looking at the universe. Else, we might be looking back at a trail of goo that was our pod.

Also, I got the sense that not many pilots were trying the new map seriously, so there wasn't much serious feedback given to CCP about what doesn't work in a tactical situation. This feedback is vital to making the future content experiences successful for players. So, I'm thinking, maybe they decided that putting the new map in our faces, so to speak, would get them the feedback they really need, soon enough to be of use. That if we didn't go to the map, they'd bring the map to us.

Maybe it worked.

Hello

the New travel 3D is awesome but the probing Map has a real big big problem please check it soon.
This day it was simply not possible for me to probe with one of my toons !!!!
When you are at 4AU the signal simply desapear !
You have to return 8AU then it appears and you go 2AU or 4AU you hve nothing !!!

Please we leave in a WH we have to probe all the day !!!

So, zooming by the mouse button wheel is too much sensible...

thx

Ditto to all the scanning issues. Scanning is highly frustrating, though possible, under the new map. I've seen the missing red dot indicators, near impossible to grab probe handles (especially when near system center, I always grab the system name label instead of the handles!), and all the rest. Looks promising and like we didn't give enough feedback during beta. Thanks for the work and can't wait to see what's next with it.

Edit: Having a go at the toggles and turning off icons for probes, moons, planets, and nearly every other semi-valuable piece of information improved my experience about 50%, landing at just south of acceptable for probing.

it would be nice to have a button so we can go straight to destination rather than just straight to our starting location

it would also be nice is we could extended downwards the "colour by" box so we dont have to scroll through the optiond.

When I am travelling around through dangerous areas, I need to consult route statistics (i.e. deaths/ships in space) on the systems I'm about to jump into. The map doesn't follow me around as I jump (which is fine) so I have to click on the "focus current location" icon then hammer the scroll wheel to zoom out so I can see the systems around me.

This is quite tedious so it would be useful if there was a similar button to "focus current location" that would focus my current system at a roughly constellation level of zoom.