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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2015-04-29 03:09:21 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:

If not permanent, then at least until destruction of the ship. Just as the originals were.

I had a Bloodraider Proph that I used for some missions, maybe only a few times a month, but it was never destroyed, it had the skin since one of the first days, now for no good reason that's been explained, I need to purchase it every 30 days?


I'm also not a huge fan of injected skins being permanent.. I do agree they shouldn't be easy to remove and trade again, but there should be a way.. like a PLEX to un-inject a skin. I mean last night I could run missions in my Quafe Megathron, dock up, and then sell it at full price. Today, either I can use the ship, or I can save it to sell, I no longer get the choice.


It has been explained.
If loot drop skins were permanent, after a while the loot would become worthless. By the loot drop skins being temporary value is maintained.
And while you never needed to repurchase the ship, now you can fly prophecies with blood raider colours and get them blown up and not have to buy a new one, just apply the same skin again instead within that 30 days. So you lost some, but you also gained some.

I know reading can be hard in a big thread, but the FIRST LINE of what I said was "until destruction of the ship. Just as the originals were". That is me NOT asking it it to be Perma.

And since I wasn't LOSING my Bloodraider Proph's, then all this does is add an additional monthly cost for me to be able to continue to enjoy my whip with 0 benefit to me at all.
It has, in essence, removed from me I ship I had from week 1 of them being available.

I'm not asking for drops to be Perma Skins.. I agree, that would tank the market. I'm asking for them to last until destruction. Or if you want be timed (30 days or whatever) where it can be used unlimited times, but once the time is up, keep it till a ship with it gets destroyed. This system is a great change for players that blow up a lot, but for those that don't it's just a kick in the teeth for these Pirate Skins.
Commander Nina Hanomaa
Chapter Six
Chapters.
#142 - 2015-04-29 03:12:27 UTC
Hello,

Quote:
(Added April 28) Titles are no longer publicly displayed in the "Show Info" window of a character, allowing corps to use them without leaking sensitive data.


Please consider reversing this change.

Enemies getting info from these titles was a complete non-issue. For all we know you can set Roles silently, without assigning a title. Title could also be something obscure that doesn't give out Roles involved with it.

We (my corporation) use the titles because it is the easiest way to give someone multiple roles and see at a glance what roles & access rights your corpmates have. View Member Details lists bunch of unuseful information that is mostly distracting.

Lastly I have to say the UI changes you made aren't consistent across the Role Management and Title Management menus.

Also for future it would be nice if you'd implement Grantable Titles.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2015-04-29 03:14:32 UTC
With all the talk of Launcher issues, mine isn't as bad as people have been saying here. It generally works. MY issue with it is that it doesn't cache the content. I have a slow connection, connecting with the launcher often takes several minutes while once again is re-downloads the background image, which it seems it has to do before it will give you the client ready. It's annoying as hell. Just save the BG image and any other static content with the launcher update, that way you don't need to redownload it every single time. That or update the main Eve EXE so it can use the NES store, and Redeem Items, without the launcher.

On a related note, ask since I've told the game to download Everything, not as I go, can CCP include the NES Store images in that? It took me an hr to be able to scroll through the ships. Sure it's cached now, but come on, I told the client to update and save everything, it downloads all the icons for Eve, it should download the icons for the NES too.
Virgil McMacset
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#144 - 2015-04-29 03:27:43 UTC
Fierar wrote:
The release broke cloaking, please fix.

1. Equip Cloak
2. Undock
3. Warp to BM
4. Enable Cloak

Ship no longer rendered in space, previously rendered as translucent frame.
Tactical Overlay doesn't render ship
r-click > Look at my ship > again nothing







I have the same problem
Jane Idoka
gratia aeternum bellum
#145 - 2015-04-29 03:56:18 UTC
I installed the patch and now my pie is cold. Why wasn't pie tested with this patch??
Leon Razor
Measure Zero
#146 - 2015-04-29 04:05:55 UTC
People & Places window: I do not like these giant green square backgrounds on the "eye" icons which indicate what bookmarks are visible in space. Very distracting and jarring for a minor UI element.

Is this a bug?

https://i.imgur.com/pxBTVTu.png
Rekkr Nordgard
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#147 - 2015-04-29 04:43:13 UTC
Whoever decided that forcing veterans to endure this horrible "opportunities" system and notifications with no way to turn it off should be canned immediately.
Woke Up Dead
Doomheim
#148 - 2015-04-29 06:13:08 UTC
Makkuro Tatsu wrote:
Lara Divinity wrote:
why r my previous permanent skinned ships stripped of there skins n my bpc skins converted to "30day timed skins"???
permanent should stay permanent

Previously your skinned ships could be blown up and blueprint copies could use up all their runs, so they were not permanent.



Yes.. but there are some people that "collect" ships. They purchase a few copies. some to fly but some just to "have in their collection". they may never fly outside of high sec and in relatively safe space if ever. Why are they penalized by now having those skins expire?
Arist en Daire
EDENCOM Section 7
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#149 - 2015-04-29 06:19:35 UTC
Two hours later - finally got client to log in --- only had to un-install and then re-install the game. One should not have to un-install and re-install a game just because it has been updated.

I like the new cloaking affect. I can only presume there was a fix applied fairly quickly - as I cannot see what all the chatter is about on the ship being invisible while cloaked. This appears to be a cross between the older affect (say that of a year ago) and the affect that was most recently used prior to this patch update. Admittedly, the affect being used just prior to this one was more "useful" it was not as aesthetic as this one. I fly a cloaky (Viator) about 85% of the time - so this affect is nice.

Due to the length of time to get into night -- will be checking out other aspects tomorrow.
White 0rchid
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#150 - 2015-04-29 07:26:58 UTC
Marius Labo wrote:
Add it back, and for those that feel there is sensitive data involved in the display of a Title allow a toggle for CEOs/Directors. Seems like an easy reversion and actual improvement if you add the ability to toggle it.


Yes, please do this, add a toggle and problem solved.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#151 - 2015-04-29 07:27:48 UTC
Those complaining about the 30 day skins, are you aware that they Licence doesn't start ticking until you inject it, so You can collect the Licences instead of the ships now!
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2015-04-29 07:59:05 UTC
Caldari 5 wrote:
Those complaining about the 30 day skins, are you aware that they Licence doesn't start ticking until you inject it, so You can collect the Licences instead of the ships now!
I am.

Are you aware that I had been able to fly BC with a pirate skin for Months, without losing it once, or needed to reapply the skin? Cause now I can't.

Having it destructible worked. It was proven that it worked, people paid for the new ships regularly.. No reason the temp skins couldn't of been the same way, or some hybrid (Unlimited for x days then destructible after that..).. thus leaving things close to as they were for people who lose them regular, and remain the same for those of us that don't lose them. This new system is like having to pay an addition Sub just to keep using a ship I want too from now on, as every 30 days it'll vanish..
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#153 - 2015-04-29 08:12:00 UTC
Kismeteer wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/CRA0kna.png

Please fix the 'Corporate Identity' opportunity. I'm in a player corporation and it is telling me to join one. I'm never leaving if I can help it.

Rest of the opportunities done, nice job.

Agreed, I'm the CEO of a Corp, "Join a Capsuleer Corporation" should be already completed for me, I'm not changing corp any time soon.
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#154 - 2015-04-29 10:02:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Freelancer117
Rivr Luzade wrote:
How can I turn off the Opportunities? I am over 4 years old now, I do not need that icon in my overview nor do I need that HUD section to popup everytime I log in.


Edit: resolved, thanks

Added the option to completely hide opportunities. This can be configured by clicking on the shield icon in info panel, or the cog icon in opportunities map and aura popups. Opportunities can be re-enabled via the neocom menu.

source: http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-mosaic

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No Lube ForU
Doomheim
#155 - 2015-04-29 10:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: No Lube ForU
WTF happened to all my skins I had b4 the patch ?????

I cant find them anywhere. Did they get removed or something..

So confused

I had 10 run ship skins b4 patch and they were at least worth some good isk
Now i got 10 single run skins worth jack sh!t
WTF ccp
Neonen Enderas
Doomheim
#156 - 2015-04-29 10:19:38 UTC
I too would like to see the title change reversed.
It's not helping this way, the old system worked and I don't even see a reason to change it.
Don't break things that aren't broken, you did a good job so far! Smile
Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#157 - 2015-04-29 11:29:26 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Marius Labo wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Exdios Jar'go wrote:
OK who's stupid idea was it to remove the Titles from displaying in Show Info??!?! Sorry but we and by the look of it, many others use this feature within the corp structure to identify who does what job within the corp, it makes it 10 times harder to workout who does what now and for new members to a corp it just confuses the hell out of people.

I honestly don't know what secret hiding titles is meant to protect, especially for those who use titles as a fun option and assign roles without titles.

Bring back the titles!



You know there are vanity titles, if you edit members?

Also, you know that you can assign roles and grantable roles without using the Title feature? It seems that the "sensitive data" feature was already in place.



It's just a total pita.

you set up the titles, and grant those to people as needed.



^^this^^

o/
Celly Smunt

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#158 - 2015-04-29 11:34:00 UTC
No Lube ForU wrote:
WTF happened to all my skins I had b4 the patch ?????

I cant find them anywhere. Did they get removed or something..

So confused

I had 10 run ship skins b4 patch and they were at least worth some good isk
Now i got 10 single run skins worth jack sh!t
WTF ccp



according to the directions, you should be able to find them in your "redeem items" area unless they were in a corp hangar and if so, they will be in market deliveries at your corp's home station.

o/

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#159 - 2015-04-29 11:47:21 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
How can I turn off the Opportunities? I am over 4 years old now, I do not need that icon in my overview nor do I need that HUD section to popup everytime I log in.

Thank you very much for making it possible to remove that icon. Much appreciated. Blink

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Silen Talker
Ts Tax Corp
#160 - 2015-04-29 11:48:18 UTC
Sensor overlay configuration popup

I like this, but it's a bit big when it pops up so often, as it does this at often inconvenient times (like in combat)

Reason: the hover zone is a rectangle considerably larger than the overlay area including the scan ring

Perhaps it would be improved if this only popped up when hovering over the overlay graphic or preferably just the scan ring