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How do we increase PvP in C5 and C6?

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Robby Godfather
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#201 - 2015-04-28 09:55:42 UTC
How about making wormhole spawn rate based on sleepers kill rate? The more sleepers you kill the more wormholes you will get. That would create more connections between used systems and force wh pve entities to be ready for pvp when doing sites.
Blizzaro
Vahalla La
Rainbow Knights
#202 - 2015-04-28 11:25:29 UTC
Robby Godfather wrote:
How about making wormhole spawn rate based on sleepers kill rate? The more sleepers you kill the more wormholes you will get. That would create more connections between used systems and force wh pve entities to be ready for pvp when doing sites.


Only if it means these spawn to top null npc kill systems.

I would run homesites for Dek holes all day.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#203 - 2015-04-28 13:29:11 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
So will any of these bizarre ideas listed in the OP actually be put forward to CCP like they are an agreed upon consensus of WH space communities views or will you just be pointing them in the direction of this thread Corbexx?

really? This is the post of your prodigal return? I'm disappointed Oops

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Bleedingthrough
#204 - 2015-04-28 14:05:34 UTC
Sorry for the late reply. Ab'del Abu, I agree with what you said concerning caps on the field.

Ab'del Abu wrote:
As for rolling your hole safe, low class inhabitants do it too. Many groups actually collapse the holes in their statics as well, if they're going to run sites there. So much for content^^


The question is not if they do it (no one wants to lose a ratting fleet) but what the gain is for everyone. Compared to home sites ratting you need to find a decent static which is worth to rat in and you are able to control first. In the process you will more likely stumble across PvP opportunities and create them than simply shutting your home static down. Also sites outside home can not be done in one siege cycle and in general a fleet in your static is way more exposed.

While I enjoy the “unknowns” that come with static isk printing and the teamwork that is required this playstyle is not competitive: Having out of corp alts in an isk-printing C5s is the way to go for painless, for the most part contentless and efficient feeding of you PvP activities/paying for your alts/etc. .

Eve players are smart and want to win. Of cause there is a cultural dimension to this but ultimately players and their groups will adapt to what is the most efficient under given game mechanics. And if you add one and one together you are where we are now. I don’t know if this is enjoyable at the top, never been in the top of the food chain in w-space. Being part of a group that is more a punching ball than a puncher we have no trouble finding content and I personally don’t have a problem with groups being so large and competent that you can not hope to win in a fight against them. From a PR standpoint it is good to have these groups that make it to the news, something that attracts ppl to w-space, someone you want to be like, it makes you feel proud to be part of the w-community.

The question is if the WH community wants more centrifugal forces in WH space and a plainer battleground. If so, dealing with capital escalations and alt farming might be the right lever to tackle this.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#205 - 2015-04-28 14:20:11 UTC
JeRaadtHetNooit wrote:
Aderoth Anstian wrote:


Encourage static farming in C5/C6s problem solved.


Remove capital escalation farming from home sites

maybe not really 'remove' but make it so your escalation appears not in your WH but in one of WHs connected to your at the moment. Plus replace capital escalations by something equally 'lucrative' but cruiser/BS level. ?

This will make people go outside or just gift this escalation to neighbours.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
HTC NecoSino
Suddenly Carebears
#206 - 2015-04-28 14:53:11 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Plus replace capital escalations by something equally 'lucrative' but cruiser/BS level. ?


Something, something, WR, something...
Neckbeard Nolyfe
Zero Fun Allowed
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#207 - 2015-04-28 14:53:26 UTC
The dumb ideas regarding escalations really don't cease to amaze.

~lvl 60 paladin~
TurboX3
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#208 - 2015-04-28 16:38:49 UTC
Stop evicting the corps / alliances living within them.....
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#209 - 2015-04-28 17:11:01 UTC
remove c5/6
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#210 - 2015-04-28 18:53:39 UTC
Thank you for disclosing our conversation, corbexx, and quoting me without permission. I know you're biased, but this is unbecoming of someone in your position. It was premature, out of context, and another betrayal of trust. The items you listed were just from the first page of a multipage thread on my forums (with my parentheses).
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#211 - 2015-04-28 19:13:15 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Thank you for disclosing our conversation, corbexx, and quoting me without permission. I know you're biased, but this is unbecoming of someone in your position. It was premature, out of context, and another betrayal of trust. The items you listed were just from the first page of a multipage thread on my forums (with my parentheses).

lol after you posted on page 4

yeesh you're dumb. No wonder lazerhawks always needs help with a leader like you Roll

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Help They GotMyMoney
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#212 - 2015-04-28 20:30:54 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Thank you for disclosing our conversation, corbexx, and quoting me without permission. I know you're biased, but this is unbecoming of someone in your position. It was premature, out of context, and another betrayal of trust. The items you listed were just from the first page of a multipage thread on my forums (with my parentheses).


Hidden Fremen wrote:
Anyway, those aren't my ideas; just random ideas that were proposed in corp.


Idea

Post with you're main.

Lazerhawks: ¨we are 5x better organized and we win by skill not always because of numbers¨
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#213 - 2015-04-28 20:32:37 UTC
NO DONT LET FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A **** NARRATIVE

fuccboi general right there

inb4 "hurrdurr no I was just le trell facing"

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Aimee Arbosa
Division 13
#214 - 2015-04-29 02:50:46 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
"hurrdurr no I was just le trell facing"

Oh god you make me laugh so hard.

I love it. Also ...

Andrew Jester wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
So will any of these bizarre ideas listed in the OP actually be put forward to CCP like they are an agreed upon consensus of WH space communities views or will you just be pointing them in the direction of this thread Corbexx?

really? This is the post of your prodigal return? I'm disappointed Oops

No, the real posts were elsewhere. In a real thread.

Like people ever make profound posts in this subforum. Roll

Also, won't removing watchlists fix this whole problem?

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Lee Sin Priest
Doomheim
#215 - 2015-04-29 02:59:26 UTC
Don't evict people...?
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#216 - 2015-04-29 03:17:28 UTC
Aimee Arbosa wrote:
Andrew Jester wrote:
"hurrdurr no I was just le trell facing"

Oh god you make me laugh so hard.

I love it. Also ...

Andrew Jester wrote:
Winthorp wrote:
So will any of these bizarre ideas listed in the OP actually be put forward to CCP like they are an agreed upon consensus of WH space communities views or will you just be pointing them in the direction of this thread Corbexx?

really? This is the post of your prodigal return? I'm disappointed Oops

No, the real posts were elsewhere. In a real thread.

Like people ever make profound posts in this subforum. Roll

Also, won't removing watchlists fix this whole problem?


NERF WATCHLIST

REMOVE FORUM

ez fix for making WHs more active

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Aimee Arbosa
Division 13
#217 - 2015-04-29 03:53:57 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
REMOVE FORUM

Stahp .. Straight

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Hnngg ♥ Coffee

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Hans Bonderstadt
#218 - 2015-04-29 04:43:04 UTC
people need a reason to leave their POS and home wormhole ))))

the trap is our venue pussy is on the menu
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#219 - 2015-04-29 10:50:36 UTC
Hans Bonderstadt wrote:
people need a reason to leave their POS and home wormhole ))))

That's easy to fix. There are plenty enough incentives to bring people out of the POS. Just add more environmental content. Doesn't change their aversion to consensual PvP, still.
Ridvanson
#220 - 2015-04-29 10:53:30 UTC
Hidden Fremen wrote:
Hans Bonderstadt wrote:
people need a reason to leave their POS and home wormhole ))))

That's easy to fix. There are plenty enough incentives to bring people out of the POS. Just add more environmental content. Doesn't change their aversion to consensual PvP, still.


slow down skill training in POS shields #yolo