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Pics of accepted alliance logos beside submitted. LOL

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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-04-24 14:37:58 UTC
http://i.imgur.com/pvHiYxy.jpg


What do you guys think of ccps skilled artists? Read reddit thread on this, pretty funny
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#2 - 2015-04-24 14:38:39 UTC
WHAT ARE YOU RANTING ABOUT NOW?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-04-24 14:40:47 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
WHAT ARE YOU RANTING ABOUT NOW?


Did you look at that pic and what the leet ccp artists are doing to the submitted alliance logos? You have to find it amusing
Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#4 - 2015-04-24 14:41:33 UTC
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-04-24 14:45:30 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Yeah i read ccp artists will make derivative work and add concord logo too.

Didnt read they will spray paint gray ontop of pic like a 3rd grader then add concord logo
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-04-24 14:45:57 UTC
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Why confuse a perfectly good troll with facts?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Stacy Lone
Nirakura Inc
Decisions of Truth
#7 - 2015-04-24 14:47:32 UTC
They need to make a derivative work out of it. That way the owner retains copyright of his own, original image and CCPs gets to own the rights of the derivative work.

Every other constellation doesn#t work. Who would give his alliancelogo 8which he might use in other games as well) to CCP, and facing the problem that CCP could decide you are not longer allowed to use it? On the other hand, CCP can not have the risk that allliances at some point decide CCP might not use their logo anymore, as this would force them to remove it from the client and an important part of EVE would be lost.

Hence the derivative work. Read the dev blog, it is explained in there.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-24 14:48:13 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Why confuse a perfectly good troll with facts?


Please cite the fact where it says ccp will open microsoft paint and spraypaint gray ontop of logo like a 3rd grader. Can you link that part?
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-04-24 14:48:27 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Yeah i read ccp artists will make derivative work and add concord logo too.

Didnt read they will spray paint gray ontop of pic like a 3rd grader then add concord logo


Did you read the part where they explained these were just samples and may not reflect the actual finished logos, which is one of the reasons for the currently on going threadnaught on "Can you give us actual examples?"

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-24 14:49:24 UTC
Stacy Lone wrote:
They need to make a derivative work out of it. That way the owner retains copyright of his own, original image and CCPs gets to own the rights of the derivative work.

Every other constellation doesn#t work. Who would give his alliancelogo 8which he might use in other games as well) to CCP, and facing the problem that CCP could decide you are not longer allowed to use it? On the other hand, CCP can not have the risk that allliances at some point decide CCP might not use their logo anymore, as this would force them to remove it from the client and an important part of EVE would be lost.

Hence the derivative work. Read the dev blog, it is explained in there.



Oh okay. So derivative work means open MS Paint, choose praypaint brush 2 and click randomly over pic with grey color? LoL
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
OnlyFleets.
#11 - 2015-04-24 14:51:30 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Stacy Lone wrote:
They need to make a derivative work out of it. That way the owner retains copyright of his own, original image and CCPs gets to own the rights of the derivative work.

Every other constellation doesn#t work. Who would give his alliancelogo 8which he might use in other games as well) to CCP, and facing the problem that CCP could decide you are not longer allowed to use it? On the other hand, CCP can not have the risk that allliances at some point decide CCP might not use their logo anymore, as this would force them to remove it from the client and an important part of EVE would be lost.

Hence the derivative work. Read the dev blog, it is explained in there.



Oh okay. So derivative work means open MS Paint, choose praypaint brush 2 and click randomly over pic with grey color? LoL


yes easiest and most cost efficient way

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Stacy Lone
Nirakura Inc
Decisions of Truth
#12 - 2015-04-24 14:59:29 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:

Oh okay. So derivative work means open MS Paint, choose praypaint brush 2 and click randomly over pic with grey color? LoL

It is one of the ways you can alter the logo. Would you rather have them change something way more significant, like color?

It's a change that doesn't dilute the original 'feel' of the logo, but instead makes it a bit more.. well, rough? And it can be applied in the same way to every logo, which means that it is easier to do it fair.

If you do other changes that need to be done differently for every logo, it creates much more work and it only makes everone complain why his logo was changed in way X and the other alliances logo was changed in way Y. With this change, you simply do it to all logos and are done.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-04-24 15:04:48 UTC
You won't even notice that in game when the logo is 1/4 the size.
Mario Putzo
#14 - 2015-04-24 15:11:25 UTC
They all seem readily identifiable to me. I am not quite sure what the problem people have here. Its not like CCP is remaking alliance logos, they are simply changing it enough to satisfy the folks over in the legal department...a little MS Paint does that.

**** if CCP wanted they could just tell everyone to **** off and choose a logo from the available options.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#15 - 2015-04-24 15:22:02 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
They all seem readily identifiable to me. I am not quite sure what the problem people one person has here.


Fixed for clarification.

Mr Epeen Cool
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
#16 - 2015-04-24 15:22:05 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Yeah i read ccp artists will make derivative work and add concord logo too.

Didnt read they will spray paint gray ontop of pic like a 3rd grader then add concord logo





Ummmmm.........The adding of the CCP logo is self explanatory.

The "Grey MS Paint " effect is to represent the wear and tear of space travel and the hard use of combat ships.


Not everything in eve stays looking out of the box new, after all........


Make sense?

Dan


Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
Mario Putzo
#17 - 2015-04-24 15:24:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
Mr Epeen wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
They all seem readily identifiable to me. I am not quite sure what the problem people one person has here.


Fixed for clarification.

Mr Epeen Cool



Nah Reddit folks are whining about it. More than EVEO. Maybe thats where this guy got the idea from, since this same discussion and same image was on Reddit a couple days ago, and it got some nice up votes, OP probably trying to parlay that into likes here.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-04-24 15:25:40 UTC
Dan Seavey Allier wrote:
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Avaelica Kuershin wrote:
Did you even read the dev blog explaining this?


Yeah i read ccp artists will make derivative work and add concord logo too.

Didnt read they will spray paint gray ontop of pic like a 3rd grader then add concord logo





Ummmmm.........The adding of the CCP logo is self explanatory.

The "Grey MS Paint " effect is to represent the wear and tear of space travel and the hard use of combat ships.


Not everything in eve stays looking out of the box new, after all........


Make sense?

Dan




I am a rich ass capsuleer. There are hundreds if not thousands of redshirts on my ships. If my logo gets a scratch, im sending their ass outside in a spaceship to repaint my logo and fix my scratch. Hell the us navy has thousands of people whos only job is to paint their ships.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-04-24 15:30:13 UTC
There's a simple solution - don't submit a new logo if you don't like CCP's process.

In fact, you know what? Really stick it to them. Hit them where it hurts and unsub. THAT will show those bastards.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#20 - 2015-04-24 15:41:02 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Oh okay. So derivative work means open MS Paint, choose praypaint brush 2 and click randomly over pic with grey color? LoL

What do you want CCP to do? Redesign your logo so it doesn't look like your logo?

If it has to be derivative enough for them to be able to claim copyright on it, then a texture over the top seems to be about the least intrusive way to do it so that it still maintains the Alliance identity.
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