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So you want CCP to deny paying customers access to the product they have bought to vote for an advisory body that the majority have already proven they dont give half a damn about?



Got no problem with that, works for the Australians.



Still that compulsion problem. I'd let you have that if every page had an abstain option same size as the candidates on the list.



If CCP want to listen, this is pretty much the first time I can remember they ever have. Just remember you HiSec dwellers had you CSM's packed with delegates and they achieved very little as I recall.

It's like sitting on a branch and sawing it.

The more people leave the less money CCP gets.
The less money they get the less things they do.
The less things they do the less people play.
And fianlly with no people game dies.

I think you should help or at least hear out others in order to keep this game healthy.
The OP is quite right at some points, so why troll others?

Oh, you mean the issue that I believe everyone backed down from as more data was made available?

Unlike, say, the anom nerf which, combined with incursions, made people flee from nullsec to run highly profitable incursions in hisec? Or the hilarious idea that "jumpbridges cause alliances to project power well beyond their borders", when the reality was that it was mostly used by people who actually tried to live in nullsec, not fleets?

We kind of have titans for that. vOv


What has Vile Rat and Trebor done, if not try to put hisec matters on the table?

I'm afraid that you're just going to have to face the fact that EVE was put on the back burner for 18+ months. Not just hisec, but also lowsec, WH, nullsec and factional warfare etc etc etc. And right now, from my POV, nullsec's state is something which has to take priority for one simple reason: nullsec is the basis of the majority of the allure of EVE. I didn't join up for "epic mining ops", or "epic freighter hauling ops", I joined up for the fact that EVE is a cold, hard place with awesome fleet fights and back and forth wars lasting more than a year.

Let me tell you a bit about what happened during the last two wars I was in on.

1) Goonswarm got evicted from delve/querious. We lost SOV because of SOV bills not being paid, so we left. This after 2 weeks of defending 49- against a lot of enemies. Just poof, gone. I'll bet that felt like a hollow victory.
2) GSF invaded fountain. 1-2 weeks of fighting, culminating in IT dropping supers and them getting counterdropped, then camped into one station. Just poof, gone. Talk about unsatisfactory end to the war. Here I was expecting, from the advertisements CCP gave out, that we'd gone up against one of the bigger groups in the game, and we'd have at least 6 months to a year of full-on constant fighting, and all I got was blueballs. They even left delve/querious, but kept paying the SOV bills. Apparently we were done grinding the SOV structures mostly unopposed a few weeks later, and IT's SOV in delve/querious didn't drop for several months because nobody could be arsed to grind them down.

Long story short, nullsec after dominion was in an awful state, and it still is. Crucible makes some things better and does add a few new ships (which hisec can make use of as well), but the core of it, the SOV system, still remains, and is in a desperate need of a metric fucktonne of love.

Can you say hisec has had such dramatic changes the last 2 years?


Moving ice to nullsec does have a few enticing side effects of making ice worth fighting over because it helps fuel capital and supercapitals. However, this has such a knock-on effect on things like hisec POSes that I would be highly surprised if it was something CCP did actually make a reality. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure it was Soundwave who suggested it, not anyone on the CSM or the other guys who were on camera during the last alliance tourney.

As for ABC, last I checked, the opinion was that this was mostly provided through gunmining from the drone regions, not wormholes, and they all dropped this idea.

And as to botting, while there's probably ratting and mining bots in nullsec, I think you should have a look at how many bots are running level 4's.


I could suggest putting forth (and vote in) a hisec candidate (or more, I don't care) which would do nothing but put forth hisec issues, if you think that would help.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the griefer Orca nerf. This is directly helpful to hisec mission runners.

Of course, this is the part where you'll come in and claim that it wasn't the CSM's idea, or that it was a bad change, or not even knowing why it's useful.

I hadn't forgotten those two little "gems" I'm afraid I was trying to find positive achievements, my error.

He i hate to admit actually got point. I ve been there, done it.

And at least for me being in null doing stuff be recognized as part of some coalition feels good. Much better then be some nobody recognized by no-one forever alone in high sec.

More people forced to grouping up, contacting "big players" and contributing for their cause more fun for everyone. Your friends today will certainly become your enemies in few years. And the circle of violence would be never broken.

Just my thoughts tho.. .

edit more importantly.

For those truly interested in high sec dwelling there would be quite peaceful high sec. Since all the players would be fighting elsewhere not having time or/and resources for some high sec "shenanigans".

You could equally argue that it would be removing a person with "Why should I keep paying to play this game?" in their signature from the forum and the game. A negative presence is removed which may equally have a positive effect as people interested in the game or who are new subscribers are not confronted with that level of blame / negativity / laziness.

So no, I think telling somebody who's primary purpose appears to be to spread misinformation and negativity to bugger off is perfectly okay!

Waiting for character named "None of the Above" .. soon

At first I wondered if OP really was that ignorant, or maybe really somehow believed in what she was saying. Then I realized it's all just a troll, one that's gone on for 8 pages of bad arguments and contradictions.

Roosterton said it all on page one already. That was the end of the thread, I don't know why it's still going on.

This whole thing is based on the assumption that democracy works.