Jita Park Speakers Corner

These days, it's camping amamake gate in titans.

You still have the normal guns.

Newsflash: EVE is a multiplayer game.

Maybe you'd be more comfortable with X3? I hear they're releasing an addon prior to rebirth.

There is no such thing as "abusing" the rules of EvE, if you're talking about attacking another player.

Eve is fundamentally designed to allow (albeit with consequences after the fact) attacks from any player, on any other player, at any location in space. Danger is everywhere, there is no way to avoid that. This is simply something that has to be accepted from the moment a new player creates their character.

CCP also tolerates scamming, suicide ganking, theft, profiteering, protection racketeering, extortion, beside plain ole' vanilla murder as described above. All of these activities are well within the rules CCP built into the core game play. Living in any one security space only reduces the possibility of these happening, not eliminates them. There never has been, and never will be, an "immunity zone" where you are 100% safe. Other games provide this, Eve does not.

New Eden is a dark world, where anything is possible. This is a game where players ultimately police themselves. If you're unhappy with being attacked, CCP expects you to learn how to defend yourself (Ask me for advice, I'm more than willing to give you any pointers you need to mission, mine, or travel with a much greater degree of safety) or if you'd prefer, you can always build a posse of friends and enact revenge.

Let me know what you're struggling with specifically, what activity you're up to and what ship you're flying, and I promise I'll do what I can to help eliminate some of the frustration. I want you to have fun if you're going to continue to play EvE

The forums here are for players to provide feedback on how to make the game more like a sandbox environment, development has always gone in the direction of giving more power and freedom to players to do with what they please. For Good or for Evil. Efforts to hijack EvE and turn it into a single-player mission-based experience are not going to bear any fruit in the end.

If EvE doesn't work out for you in the end, X3 is a great choice, Sins of a Solar Empire is another great game that is similar to EvE but lacks the player vs player danger component that you so strongly dislike. I certainly hope you stick around though and seek some advice, every player counts and makes EvE a richer world to play in.

Feasting on what civilization's corpse now? As the proverb goes, you can't make an omelet without breaking an egg.

Even more fitting in this case, as capsuleers are referred to as "eggers".

But no seriously, I am confused as to what you are talking about. An utopia where you just endlessly build stuff and get more stuff just to get stuff? ... stuff?

I'm kind of at a loss for words....your last dozen posts have been about how awful it is that players attack each other and that the game favors PvP over PvE, (and even accused me of shoving my "elite PvP mentality" down your throat) and complained that there isn't enough you can do on your own.

And now, you say the reason you came to EvE was because you wanted human interaction and to experience the fun and challenge of PvP?

Its time to stop complaining about the game, complaining about the way you've been treated, and blaming other people because you don't know what you really want. Either ask for the help that you need to be successful and have a good time, (that's the very reason many of us hang out here in the forums), or simply move on.

Declaring that an apple is not an orange, but should be, is an utter waste of everyone's time. The CSM and the Jita Park forum exists so that players can work together to make EvE more like EvE - not sit around dreaming about and begging for something totally different because you feel this game is rubbish.

I think it's about time you stop talking about me, my motivations, my ideas, and so. It grows tiresome and now you should be aware that I am not trolling, rather I've been putting a lot of thought in this kind of threads. Likely i don't make myself understood, and even less in English but we are not talking about ME. We weren't until you acused me of being a troll.

EVE is what is and i want to help making it better as an act of gratitude for all the fun it's given me this years.

So here goes my 2 cents: nullsec dwellers should not be the only ones guiding this game, and that should start with the CSM reflecting whatever interests and needs have all players and not just nullsec overlords. Which means asking hisec dwellers why and how they play.

The answer, as with me, may be shocking. Maybe it turns that most people in EVE does not play EVE rather Theme Park in Space! Why mission runners are the largest profession? Is that a design goal? How can anyone tell when there are no mission runners to ask them at the CSM? And how should they be, if they're lone wolves and the only way to reach the CSM is to be very popular and have a lot of voting vassals? (Which in turn puts the candidates in the small, thus unrepresentative, minority of people who have got large amounts of vassals and friends)


PS: And BTW, don't figure you will understand a Mediterranean by trying to frame him in the concepts you're familiar with. Here we got an habit to defend five opposite things at the same time, so i may try and suggest ways to improve a game whose concept i despise because I like how ihe game is done because it has allowed me to not play it the way it is supposed to be played.

Heh, you mad.

You're right though. Nullsec shouldn't dominate the CSM, but somehow the CSM is padded with nullsec representatives. It could be because we are organized and vote uniformly (as you suggest) and the high-sec people had too much of a disjointed voice to make a difference, oooor... it could be because the high-sec population did not demonstrate an ounce of care. 15% vote turnout is pathetic if as many people as are grinding these level 4 missions and playing Eve in "theme park" mode actually cared about making a change or having their voices heard.

As I remember, during the last CSM election there were candidates who wanted to represent high-sec, but nobody voted for them. So, this next election, I expect you to be at the head of the movement to support those candidates and get out the word to other high-seccers to go friggin vote if you want your voice to be heard.



Nice try, using stereotypes to defend lack of logic. Eve is a mostly-Icelandic developed game, with an international community, with an extra layer of pixel characters obscuring real identities. Welcome to not being able to use behavior local to your country to get things done. Get used to it.

He's Greek, and can't get rich IRL, so he wants to do so online.

Edit: Alternative punchline: he's Greek, and wants to know what it's like to not be part of a failing nation with an exploding economy.

Just because you invented western civilization doesn't mean you get a free pass to be part of it forever.