Intergalactic Summit

You know, you're right. Let me just take my food for thought and come back to you in five hundred years.

How dare anyone attempt to inject a fresh perspective and not have hundreds of years to show for it. Good luck moving forward with the weight of your failed pasts strapped to your ankles.


I'm not trying to prove anything. First thing you might want to try is breaking out of that mindset.

I'm just trying to give those who indulge in this idiocy some food for thought. I'm not like you people and have no desire to prove anything to you, to think that I wish to step into this arena is very wrong. Please carry on bickering and slaughtering each other while I watch in total amusement while sitting beside my friends and family of all races, all equally bemused.

Takes a little more than ignorance to upset my sister.

Data or official statement? if is not of much of a trouble provide it .



your opinion? if not Data or official statement? if is not of much of a trouble provide it .



You speak of past here do you know Minmatar ppl were enslaved you don't just hop on a "happy places wagon" right away why do ppl assume someone will give them everything they need as soon as they need it. Maybe you know some other non empire did a better job so far no?

BUT still i am curious about some data on this surely it must be around.





"According to the Empress’s announcement, the emancipation extends to every Minmatar slave of ninth generation and up, along with Minmatar academics and religious figures. It is unclear at this time exactly how many slaves are being set free in total, but all experts thus polled so far agree that the number will reach into the hundreds of millions."


"“That’s going to be between six and seven hundred million slaves,” said Betancour Soraine, a senior analyst at the Federal Readjustment for Extraditions and Escapees program on Gallente Prime. “Who knows what crises that’s going to cause for the Empire? How they intend to replenish that kind of work force is beyond me. And, I mean, these aren’t glaive-collared factory drones, these are educated people, these are specialists. This is a brain trust we're talking about here.”

Taken from Empress Jamil announcement

If you happen to actually be in Minmatar non empire you can see things like this and inform your self a bit about relocating millions as a work project.

But i am sure that there can be some data proving it is fake and Republic selling whole planet to Angel cartel slave lords and ppl there are living in horrible conditions and starving in filthy slumps?

I was born a slave. Won't die as one, rest assured, but plenty of people're gonna get bent out of shape when their people are subjected to the wills of others, simply because the Amarr've got it twisted in their heads that we're a people needed 'savin' '. Can't say much ta whether or not we did - like I said, never been a free Matari 'til a couple of us decided we were sick of bein' forced ta worship somethin' we didn't care to.

It's easy to ask why people get motivated to fight, if you're not one of the ones bein' oppressed. It's also easy ta get wound up by somebody pointin' it out, an' some people like ta hide behind excuses. I don't get mad, I get even.

"Well, I was a slave! They need to pay for what they did!" I hear lots of my own carryin' on about.

We're motivated by what's happened to us, but ya can't sit there and preach unity an' all that, while you're takin' handouts from Gallente and Caldari. Don't know about you, but my people being shoved under the boot of some self-righteous Amarrian by way of the guise of 'religious redemption', means I'm not all that fond of letting anyone not Matari help me out. Unfortunately, doesn't look like my people're in the standpoint ta do much helpin', anyway. So we've gotta do what we've gotta do - in my case, meant takin' help from a Gallente an' joinin' a mining crew with a friend'a mine. An' becomin' a pirate, but we'll...just nudge that one under the bridge rug.

*Dominik clears his throat, and shifts in his chair*

The wounds are still fresh. Until every Matari is free, slavery isn't an excuse to fight, it's a reason. They want political kindnesses an' sensibility from us? Stop puttin' us in chains, stop stuffin' us in strip mines. Stop lettin' Matari children be born into somethin' they didn't choose. Stop stranglin' to death the cultures an' rituals of m'people. I got myself some help; no reason everybody else shouldn't be able ta do the same.

Slavery's the main focus point, sure; most of us born inta it, only know that side of it. Gotta forgive us for not bein' upset about somethin' we didn't hear about until after the chains were broken. Not like Amarr to go around tellin' their captives all about how they wrecked their planet. At least, most of the ones with sense.

The Republic's a good idea, but we as a people, we've gotta get stronger ourselves. From what I hear, it's all about Tribe an' Clan, an' not so much about Matari. We gotta change that. We keep fightin' among ourselves like this, it's all we'll ever be doin'. Stop lettin' people tear off the scabs before the wound's healed, an' all that. Only reason things ain't changed yet, is because we're standin' in the way, instead of bein' behind there an' pushin' - an' the ones that are, are doin' it in the wrong direction.

Been a spiritual man for a while, yet. Have faith that our people're gonna come outta this stronger'n ever, but it's gonna take way more blood, sweat, tears an' lives. Not gonna hope we're strong enough ta survive it, already proven we are. Just have ta have hope that faith's not misguided inta the wrong people.

Kirjuun, if anyone ever doubts the strength of the people of the tribes, you are a glowing example.

Our slaves are our people, not your, Miss Vess.
Your people are sitting in your homes.

Sinjin, taken in context, the line you have quoted here would be a final sarcastic rebuttal to the respondent in question.
taken out of context, as you appear to have done so, it can be taken as a defamatory remark.
it was not worded in the best way, but does not appear to actually be intended as you have taken it.

calm down, breathe and read the whole post.

History, it's a wonderful thing Luna, you should read a book or two about it.

Firstly, The Voluval ritual as we know it today was RE-LEARNED, as prior to the Matari rebellion it had been made illegal for any Matari to have a tattoo.

secondly, as others have clearly stated, the difference between slavery, and a tattoo, is very very simple.

Slavery enforces the will of the slaver on the slave.
A tattoo is often a personal choice, or in the case of the voluval, is imparted by chance or the spirits, depending of course on which you'd prefer to believe.

A tattoo is not, within Matari society, (as far as I am aware) chosen for you by your leader or owner.

Which brings me to the last point, Slavery instils the belief that another human being can be your property.
This is not a civilised way of thinking.

- Tertianus Rethelior

People sure like to throw a lot the word 'brainwash' for pretty much anything...

Would 'Indoctrinated beyond the ability to reasoned with' be a better choice of words for you?