Intergalactic Summit

Generally speaking, when leaders lead, society follows. So long as those that lead, care more about slavery, personal enrichment, and enrichment of the tribe over the greater whole, then the focus will never be where it needs to be: that is the prosperity of the Matari people as a whole. There could be an organization to bring that focus to the people.

Of course, all of this is academic I suppose, I doubt there would be any place in an organization like the one I am talking about for a woman like myself, born of the Mandate, and only recently reconnecting with the heritage of my blood. Not to mention that ultimately, it is easier for me to see the path forward for the Matari people with the Nation than by their own volition, I want to have faith in the tribes, but they have thusfar disappointed me.

Of course, because our way of surviving is 'clean'.

The difference is tangible. Look around you here in IGS. How many holo-threads do you see authored by wormholers, bitterly debating conflicts with other wormholers or Anoikin divisions? We fight for different reasons than race or religion and the result of that is ... well, invisible. And that's my point. But please, continue to demonstrate I'm wrong with the nationalistic, racist and bigoted debate that flows in this thread and countless others.

There is your first reason alone to begin looking outside of the box, instead of trying to dominate the box.


It's hardly an experiment, merely a lifestyle.

Get back into bed, Mr Tuulinen and try rolling out the other side, sir.

I disagree with you. No other civilization before (that we know of) or since has had such calm waters in their past. Especially not any as ethnically, culturally, and spiritually diverse as the Republic.


For you to consider:

The first Amarrian Emperor was crowned two thousand years before large civilizations appeared on Matar. And yet the Minmatar formed a global culture a hundred and seventy years before the Amarrians did. The globalization of Athra was marked by the conquest of the last state who opposed the Amarrians, the globalization of Matar was a marked by a unification of the tribes at the Grand Caravanserai, the same place the new tribal order was ratified last year by the seven Tribes.

Very little information exists from this time so it is not known if it was completely without conflict and so is generally not a part of the 'thousand years of peace' rhetoric that gets used. However, it was certainly not as violent as what came before it as most conflicts were resolved through the chiefs and open Tribal warfare was rare even before the unification.

When the Matari of old left Matar they colonized three solar systems using ancient gates and from that time our records are much better, this is the 'thousand years of peace' in which for nine hundred and forty two years there was no open conflict between Tribes or Clans before the Amarrians found them.

One thousand and thirty nine years of unified global culture followed by nine hundred and forty two years of perfect peace. In the most ethnically, culturally, and religiously diverse people in the cluster. Compare that to the diverse Gallente and their history or to the much more homogeneous State and their conflicts. Obviously there are a large number of circumstances that make a direct comparison unfair to all parties but you get the point.

To describe the Minmatar before the Day of Darkness, they were a people who had no need of armies for over half of their history most of which was pre-spaceflight, the catalyst that historically triggers global cultures to form. That is not to say we were without weapons, some martial traditions are among the oldest parts of what is even recorded in history. But in comparison to the warships and orbital bombardments, weapons of mass destruction and massive land armies of the Empire at the time I do in fact think that People of Peace is a very appropriate term. I can never escape the bias of seeing from my own perspective but the facts speak for themselves.

All of these are very good questions; I have struggled with many of them myself. Know that some of us are working tirelessly to correct the course of our people and that one day we will be united once again. Do not lose hope. While I will not go into specifics at this moment, I will say that the landscape of the warzone will soon begin to change again; this time in our favor.


Sallamaka al-lahu wa-nasaraka

May the spirits guide you, and grant you safety

I think you would be surprised just how much you have in common with most Matari living in the Republic Valentina. Your words echo the will of the Tribes more than may be clear from outside the Republic.

The wise speak of what they know - and you know nothing. We do not seek to swing the pendulum in our favor, but to cut it down.

That must explain why you answered Valentina with a non-sequitur and answered me with a dusty old proverb. Sticking to what you know, eh? We have a version of that too, better to remain silent and have your intelligence be in question than to speak and remove for all time any doubt. Shame I didn't follow that one, myself.

Where do you think the ships ammunition and modules are made Peter. Who do you think controls the amount of Republic Fleet Warp Disruptors, a nearly ubiquitous piece of technology when it comes to high-cost combat ships? I think you are confusing the money made by the importer with the money made by the manufacturer. You are forgetting just how valuable ISK is, how valuable it is for the nations to have income streams like this.

I am not really sure where you take your sources, or through which lens...

Conflicts were... rare ? Always resolved ?

Have you had a look at inter tribal warfare before the unification of the Minmatar Empire when they took to the stars. The bloody, endless feuds between the Nefantar and the Krusual, among others.

Unified global culture ? What ?

Between Starkmanir, Nefantar, Vherokior, or Thukker cultures ? I am not sure we share the same definition of unified and global... Certainly not before the unification of the Minmatar Empire. Please forgive me for being blunt, but you even contradict yourself by speaking about unified global culture and then about the most ethnically, culturally, and religiously diverse... That, is completely antinomic by definition.

I also do not really understand the need to continuously go back to compare it to what happened on Athra ? Is that a contest or something ? I would rather prefer to talk about History, not the usual propaganda...

And no, actually, I am afraid not to get the point...

And you are an expert on the operations of my Alliance, are you? Don't make me laugh.

Things change quickly in the cluster. Keep your eyes peeled and you will understand that soon enough, unless of course you let yourself be blinded by your "panache," or arrogance, rather.

Oh, and for the last time, I had no intention of directly answering Valentina's questions - I only offered reassurance. Surely a black-and-white statement like this cannot be misunderstood.