Intergalactic Summit

I will first start off by saying I am probably out of my place asking this. I’m sorry for this but for a while now its been a question that has plagued me.

The Amarr have done alot to us, whether it be our first introduction, or more accurately an invasion, followed by centuries of servitude, and then thanks to the Jove and the Gallante Federation our freedom. This followed by countless other things. Why does it seem that slavery is the only focal point the major corporations in the Minmatar militia have to hate and fight the Amarr Empire? That was just one mechanism in their attempt to destroy our culture, our way of life, or really us in general. We seem to forget they used orbital bombardment to destroy our ancestors homes and monuments, attempted to murder our largest tribe due to one man's (justified) actions, and went to great lengths to destroy everything that makes us who we are. They even have arguably used our own people in a way to hurt us economically by freeing our people at a time we could barely support them. Mind you, ones who have never known their own culture, thus hurting them as well.

I really just don’t get it. If we succeed in freeing our brothers and sisters, they’ll just come back for them or they have been indoctrinated into the Amarr faith and will really just cause them pain for years to show them who they really are. If we’re going to fight them, isn’t their attempts to destroy us and everything that defines us more than enough reason? And after all, its not like we won’t free them as we avenge the damage done.

Not to mention in the inception of our republic, many of us left to go to the Federation, or off to other places, such as working for the angel cartel and other pirate organizations. Many of our own capsuleers have followed this trend. What is this exactly saying about our people? We can’t even retain our own blood. Where the hell exactly are we going? I’m thankful for the various other races fighting in our militia, I’m even thankful for the San Sabik who fight for us, but why is it we need them as badly as we do (in the same way the Amarr have Sansha pilots)? We faced a time where we lost all of the warzone dictated by the CEWPA, why was this lost? We grew apart, we deserted our posts and the 24th imperial crusade swept up everything and gloated about it for weeks after.

To sum it all up even if we succeed in freeing our people, they’ll just bide their time and wait for our next Day of Darkness to capitalize on the fact there really doesn’t seem to be any unity in what is our strongest force, our capsuleers. History repeats itself so why should start the cycle again?

Please don’t ask me how to solve this or what could be done. I really don’t know. Honestly I just hope someone has more answers than I do. And also, I am not saying I don't support freeing our brothers and sisters. But really, this question kinda bugs me alot..

My Clan left the Republic because Republic politics is bullcrap, our people focus way too much about the slavery within Amarrian borders than the social and economical wellbeing of the ones inside Republic borders and the fact that for a very long time our leaders are in the habit of using anti-Amarr, anti-slavery (sometimes both at once) to distract us from the real issue at hand: our horrible living standards, our lackluster economic growth and etc.

Our regret is that we did not leave for a far enough away place, but that's because of that haphazard preparation we had before we embarked on this exodus in the first place.

Sure, things are improving now but honestly? The Republic's history since its inception left us much to be wary about.

The Republic is what it is because people allowed their rage, hatred and desire for revenge to rule them, while greed and deceit profits and the wisdom is silenced.

It becomes just sad when another random loud-mouthed pilot vents his hatred of the Amarr slavers, oblivious to the fact that there are Angel slavers operating with impunity in his home system. And the Angel slaver practices are actually worse than Amarrian, because they are in this business for profit, not for some imaginary religious enlightening. People hate what they are taught to hate, and then they can't live without it, because without that hatred their life becomes meaningless.

Unity of any kind among the eggers is impossible by definition. Even those who are loyal to some cause at the beginning die a few times, are reborn, and their personalities eventually change. Surprisingly, it appears that the Amarrian religion is what keeps so many of them relatively motivated, but even those are drop in a bucket of the general capsuleer populace.

But even the most motivated groups eventually fall apart because of exhaustion, external pressure and internal bickering. Electus Matari existed for many years, but even it had dissolved.

I think there are worse times to come.

Slavery is likely the focal point for many Minmatar Militia corporations because it is such an inflammatory issue and because unlike all of the other reasons the OP listed as reasons to go to war with the Amarr, slavery is the only ongoing issue.

I would like to echo Pilot Nissui's statement that few Militia corporations fight explicitly for the Minmatar cause. Unfortunately a great majority fight for fun and/or personal profit.

It would have if it wouldn't have misappropriated the financial aid lent to it by the Federation. Instead, those funds were diverted to other projects for other purposes which did not benefit the Matari people as a whole but only fueled the agenda of a few.

Please understand, I do not make this statement to attack you or the Matari people. I make it because history is bound to repeat itself if we do not learn from it.

The Federation will not meddle in the internal affairs of your Republic, that is left to you. However, I suspect that a petition for support and aid would not fall on deaf ears should one be made.

If not from the Federation itself, then from interest groups and individuals like myself who would contribute to such a cause.

Those funds were diverted but they still were of benefit to the Matari people. The "Elder Fleet" prevented a genocide of the Starkmanir. We continue to develop the Republic Military because we're concerned with history repeating itself.

My Clan crash-landed on Skarkon II outskirts following an attack against our caravan by the Angel Cartel. That was almost four decades ago. We were much more concerned with putting the pieces back together and just plain surviving against the frequent dust storms (of the superfine particle type) and food and water than seeking out revenge back then. Well, the part with the dust storm and the food and water's more or less settled, so the focus is diverted to putting together the material and surpluses needed for another exodus. Skarkon II's not exactly the best place to call home.

The Clan never did emigrate to the Federation simply because we had seen how well the Federation model worked for the Republic and wanted nothing to do with it.

My reason for being in the Federation? To shoot someone's ship and get paid for doing it. Seriously! For the love of my Breacher, stop assuming loyalties just because of the militia flag we are fighting under! Privateers! Do you know them?

On the topic of finding a working government model, the Tribal Assembly model seems to be working. For now anyway. The Federation model wouldn't had worked (and in fact, didn't) with the people of our particular mindset considering how we tend to put the interests of the Tribe first before the interests of the whole. Time will tell if the model lasts.

Also, hopefully that last time with Jamyl is good enough wake-up call to start taking development of social and economic matters more seriously instead of focusing everything into military.

It is very obvious that the financial issues are more prevalent, maybe its a sad way of looking at it but I've often viewed the militia and the conflict more so as war games for the inevitable war that will someday ensue. There really is no doubt in my mind this overly controlled "war" is meaningless in the long run, if not then a few months back the 24th IC would have probably pushed to Rens and further. On the topic of unity of the tribes and more so capsuleers, maybe this is just my personal opinion but I would still rather this hot and cold relationship as opposed to whatever you would call it now.

Thank you everyone for commenting so far, it has given me a lot to think about, Cardinal Graelyn, thanks for your addition from the other side of everything it definitely adds some perspective to this. Also Nissui, would you mind if I asked you a few questions when I get the chance? There were a few I didn't really felt appropriate for this.

Again Thank you everyone!

Cut off the hand to save the arm from the looks of it...

If this were anywhere in Heimatar or whatever, I wouldn't be surprised. You folks are flying 24th IC colours and all and the local Matari have prejudices and preconceptions against them and their betters.

I can give some general advices: if you want to rescue anyone, look for those who are in stations. The ones who are still on the planets are usually there because they are too damned stubborn to leave. The ones stuck in stations are the ones desperate for refuge.