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Dev blog: Ship Customization: Time to Show Some SKIN

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#301 - 2015-04-22 17:35:46 UTC
Sunseahl Hediyohsi wrote:
okay... maybe i'm not reading the blog and all the following posts right... maybe i'm just missing something.....


so... / TO CLARIFY /

My Sarum and Tash Murkon Magnates are having their Special Edition bonuses stripped away to give me a base Magnate and both of those SKINS as permanent items?

Cause if that's the case... I need to go find a new scanning ship. >.>

Umm.. I'd had to break it do you, but the base Magnate has the EXACT Same Bonus as the "Special" ones. They are JUST a skinned Magnate.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#302 - 2015-04-22 17:36:49 UTC
Theo Sotken wrote:
Spugg Galdon wrote:
This all looks very very good.



For those of you saying the prices are too high; maybe they are but, this way CCP can do "SALES" and you can get them cheap every now and then!


That is an awful idea. So the guys who pay 'full' price end up with the feeling they are getting ripped off for not buying in the 'sales' which may or may not happen. Why not introduce a range of affordable skins which everyone will want to buy, some may just to get the complete the set. And then have special edition skins that cost alot which will be rare due to the price of them and limited supply as 'prizes'.


steam games . . . summer sale amd black friday vs rest of the year

Yeah, impulse buys make you angry but at yourself for having no self control.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#303 - 2015-04-22 17:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
The entire SKIN thing came about from player requests for the ability to customize their ships. CCP, you may think you have provided that capability, but you have not. I cannot customize my ship. All I can do is allow you to customize my ship. I cannot select the specific colors I want, or the patterns I want, or the features I want. All I can do is choose to let you give me the colors, patterns, and features you want.

Sure, this is a quite good step in the right direction, but I still want to customize my ship.

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Sunseahl Hediyohsi
Lucian Alliance
Arcane Alliance
#304 - 2015-04-22 17:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Sunseahl Hediyohsi
Sniper Smith wrote:
Sunseahl Hediyohsi wrote:
okay... maybe i'm not reading the blog and all the following posts right... maybe i'm just missing something.....


so... / TO CLARIFY /

My Sarum and Tash Murkon Magnates are having their Special Edition bonuses stripped away to give me a base Magnate and both of those SKINS as permanent items?

Cause if that's the case... I need to go find a new scanning ship. >.>

Umm.. I'd had to break it do you, but the base Magnate has the EXACT Same Bonus as the "Special" ones. They are JUST a skinned Magnate.


What What? When the hell did that happen? One of the SES had Salvager reduction and the other had a +10 to virus strength.....


Sneaky CCPs.... >.>
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#305 - 2015-04-22 17:45:02 UTC
This may be a littl eoff-topic, but since we are looking at permanent ship skins as an option, will we ever see the same thing happen for clothing purchased through NES as well?
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#306 - 2015-04-22 17:46:47 UTC
I have one last comment about the whole thing.

I don't like how the Timed skins work. I don't like the idea of a timelimit in general. My suggestion is to call them Temp Skins, and have them work as they do now. They last till you have it applied and go boom. To make things interesting, you can't change ship skins in space while you have an engagement timer (but still can if you manage to dock..)

Seems to me like a much better way to deal with those.. Collectors still get to have the skinned ship to spin, and fighters still get to have their and seem them go boom.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#307 - 2015-04-22 17:48:11 UTC
Rowells wrote:
This may be a littl eoff-topic, but since we are looking at permanent ship skins as an option, will we ever see the same thing happen for clothing purchased through NES as well?

Clothing is and has always been Perma.. I see no reason to change it.. They are strictly vanity items that have no effect on gameplay at all as you don't even get a KM for em. I think Clothing should be left alone.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#308 - 2015-04-22 17:50:53 UTC
Sunseahl Hediyohsi wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
Sunseahl Hediyohsi wrote:
okay... maybe i'm not reading the blog and all the following posts right... maybe i'm just missing something.....


so... / TO CLARIFY /

My Sarum and Tash Murkon Magnates are having their Special Edition bonuses stripped away to give me a base Magnate and both of those SKINS as permanent items?

Cause if that's the case... I need to go find a new scanning ship. >.>

Umm.. I'd had to break it do you, but the base Magnate has the EXACT Same Bonus as the "Special" ones. They are JUST a skinned Magnate.


What What? When the hell did that happen? One of the SES had Salvager reduction and the other had a +10 to virus strength.....


Sneaky CCPs.... >.>

It's always been like that on TQ as far as I remember.. I mean they had the same stats as the normal one day one they were seeded..
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#309 - 2015-04-22 17:54:01 UTC
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#310 - 2015-04-22 17:59:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Sniper Smith wrote:
Rowells wrote:
This may be a littl eoff-topic, but since we are looking at permanent ship skins as an option, will we ever see the same thing happen for clothing purchased through NES as well?

Clothing is and has always been Perma.. I see no reason to change it.. They are strictly vanity items that have no effect on gameplay at all as you don't even get a KM for em. I think Clothing should be left alone.

Mybe I'm not up to date. Last i recall if you were wearing when you died you lost it for good. Did this change somehow?

I particularly remember having a special jacket i bought with the free 2000 and haven't seen it since i lost it
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#311 - 2015-04-22 18:02:40 UTC
Viktor Hadah wrote:
you would never fly a rattlesnake victory edition in the first place.

People do fly them though... I do Roll

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Sunseahl Hediyohsi
Lucian Alliance
Arcane Alliance
#312 - 2015-04-22 18:09:40 UTC
Sniper Smith wrote:
Sunseahl Hediyohsi wrote:


What What? When the hell did that happen? One of the SES had Salvager reduction and the other had a +10 to virus strength.....


Sneaky CCPs.... >.>

It's always been like that on TQ as far as I remember.. I mean they had the same stats as the normal one day one they were seeded..



That's really odd cause I used to swear by the one that only had the salvager ops on it because it was faster at pulling "ye 'olde Loot Spew." Maybe they changed their stats when the Loot Spew and several other data/relic site mechanics changed....

And i just didn't notice ......
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#313 - 2015-04-22 18:11:04 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
Rowells wrote:
This may be a littl eoff-topic, but since we are looking at permanent ship skins as an option, will we ever see the same thing happen for clothing purchased through NES as well?

Clothing is and has always been Perma.. I see no reason to change it.. They are strictly vanity items that have no effect on gameplay at all as you don't even get a KM for em. I think Clothing should be left alone.

Mybe I'm not up to date. Last i recall if you were wearing when you died you lost it for good. Did this change somehow?

I particularly remember having a special jacket i bought with the free 2000 and haven't seen it since i lost it

You get nekkid in your capsule, and you Clothing is on a share plan that all stations are involved in :)
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#314 - 2015-04-22 18:11:25 UTC
Sojourn wrote:
"now there will be unlimited copied of limited edition ships"


Erm, which part of "the skin only applies to you, the actual ship doesn't change, you cannot sell limited edition ships, and the number of limited edition skins that will be available on the market will be INCREDIBLY small, not to mention the fact that the skins are a one time use only item" did you not pick up on? So if by "unlimited copies" you meant "the people who actually fly them will be the ONLY people who CAN fly them, ever".

Just to review here: me and my poor self will not be able to go out and buy unlimited numbers of this ship, instead I would need to buy one of an extremely limited number of the permanent skin.

And if you're going to sling crappy insults around, at least do it with a non-NPC toon Blink
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#315 - 2015-04-22 18:15:13 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Sniper Smith wrote:
Rowells wrote:
This may be a littl eoff-topic, but since we are looking at permanent ship skins as an option, will we ever see the same thing happen for clothing purchased through NES as well?

Clothing is and has always been Perma.. I see no reason to change it.. They are strictly vanity items that have no effect on gameplay at all as you don't even get a KM for em. I think Clothing should be left alone.

Mybe I'm not up to date. Last i recall if you were wearing when you died you lost it for good. Did this change somehow?

I particularly remember having a special jacket i bought with the free 2000 and haven't seen it since i lost it

Clothing you are wearing when you undock does not get destroyed. Clothing in your hold is treated as any loot item, it may drop or be destroyed.

I think the question is if clothing, once worn, would be come non-transferable. Right now, you can buy clothing, wear it, then re-sell on the market. But not SKINs. Once used, you are stuck with them.

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Chuga66
The Soul Society
Fraternity.
#316 - 2015-04-22 18:17:12 UTC
So, i know a few people have brought it up, but I recall some pretty awesome skins that were given to the Serenity server (i'm referring to a super sick Machariel skin). Is there any effort towards Faction Battleships Skins, or perhaps can we get our hands on those Serenity skins?

Please please please please please please!!!
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#317 - 2015-04-22 18:24:37 UTC
The mind boggles why i pay a monthly Sub when something like Ship skins have a extra cost... Roll
Yeah these skins are cosmetic items, but looking at your ship is kinda a key part of EVE online... wouldn't you think!!!

Perhaps CCP should think about players that actually pay into the game for once & give them better rates on the NES store for being loyal customers Blink ...25% off NES store P ../winks

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#318 - 2015-04-22 18:40:54 UTC
Hey CCP, What about the:
Miasmos Amastris Edition
Miasmos Quafe Ultra Edition
Miasmos Quafe Ultramarine Edition


Will those get upgraded to matching the current Maismos and turned into Skins, or will they remain unique special edition ships?
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#319 - 2015-04-22 18:40:55 UTC
These prices have me terrified of how much a permanent faction-wide SKIN would cost.

Or is that just never gonna happen? Cause at this rate faction-wide would be well over $100.

So here's how you need to do this CCP:

- Sell a nexus chip from the NES store.
- Make Faction-wide SKINs available at the relevant LP store
- Require the chip as part of the LP offer.

THAT is how you make the market work out better. ANNNNNND you make the game more varied by giving people a reason to work for a corp like Quafe aside from the novelty of it. I wanna paint ALLLL of my ships the same theme dammit.

Besides,the clothing market hasn't been saturated yet has it? Those are only destructible as items which is REALLY rare anyone is carrying those around.

The differences in price for SKINs on the same ship don't make any sense either. If the Kador SKINs are really that popular then let the in-game market handle that inflation.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#320 - 2015-04-22 18:43:48 UTC
Celise Katelo wrote:
The mind boggles why i pay a monthly Sub when something like Ship skins have a extra cost... Roll
Yeah these skins are cosmetic items, but looking at your ship is kinda a key part of EVE online... wouldn't you think!!!

Perhaps CCP should think about players that actually pay into the game for once & give them better rates on the NES store for being loyal customers Blink ...25% off NES store P ../winks

I think the prices in the NES are fine, what I'd like to see is in-game means to get these skins. Be it drops, missions, gaining standings, etc. I am not a fan that the only way to skin a ship Perma, less the Comet, is to fork over a bunch of money.. I like that being an OPTION, but I'd rather other means be added into the game too.