Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There is nothing smart about re-inventing the wheel. It's popular after about 12 years or so, and it is by far the most dynamic and extensive game on the market.

Bug fixes are all thats required.

Wait, what kind of chav lets a 12 year old drive a car?

Less than 12. It was specifically said that Eve is older than the child.

The Elder Scrolls Online. But there's always something to do as you travel.

Space is empty.

Visit a Council estate in the UK for the answer to that question :D

The arguments against that have been put forward are pretty much nonsensical and show a lack of understanding of software development, sequels and core EvE mechanics:

1. Warping from gate a through gate b through gate c to destination gate d is a bad idea because it'd reduce the amount of fights, interaction, whatever.

Ships already warp from gate a to gate b to gate c to gate d anyway. The main difference between this old clunky system and a new system such as the one I proposed is efficiency.

Given that I stated interdiction if required could be set up at intermediate points (gates) and also via interceptor / interdiction type in warp probing the system I propose actually increases interaction. Not only does it increase it but it eliminates one of the most useful anti-pvp tactics in current EvE and that is using a scout alt to check each gate.

Obviously you could still do that by choosing to jump system to system rather than setting an endpoint many systems away however given people are lazy many will opt for quicker method and get caught by gate camps strategically placed or be caught in warp by a quick probing interdiction ship.

2. EvE can be upgraded as we go.

Well its been 10+ years and there is a whole bunch of technical aspects and decisions that haunt the game to its detriment that cannot be easily changed.

3. It would create lag.

Utilization of existing technologies and lessons learned from EVE aside much of the lag is caused by EVE not implementing or planning for existing lag causing effects.

Take grids for example. A grid is a see everything or see nothing system. If a ship warps in on grid at 1km its visible to all ships, whether they're 1km, 100km or 1000 km away. This means the server has to provide information on that ship to every other ship on grid as well as providing information of every other ship on grid to that one ship. This occurs despite that ship being unable to target or otherwise interact with any other ship because its out of range. This occurs for all ships every 1 second meaning much of the server processing is irrelevant to the player since that information being given to the server is not important Information for the player. Players need to strategize on necessary information, data thrown enmasse by the server at players simply because of grid is extremely bad.

A superior system would be to have grids around each ship with ships entering each other grids dynamically being transferred into single grids. The difference is current mechanics is like trying to cram 100 people into an elevator for one single trip vs the elevator making necessary trips as required.

Disclaimer: my ideas are not proposals for implementation, they are simply examples of how improvements might or could be made to a new EvE online rather than vainly trying to fix a fatally broken system like EVE.

Personally i think we should have a second and third new instance of eve.

Crowd funding is simply asking people interested in a product to provide some of the funds so that product can be delivered. If enough people want a product then crowd funding can be used to turn the "there will never be project X" into "there will be project x".

Crowd funding is not exclusive to start ups.

All in-system current local warp mechanics would apply, with only difference being the increase in warp speed passing the interstellar boundary barrier in Jita-Perimeter, and Perimeter-Iyen-Oursta.

So if you warp directly from 4-4 to a station in that Gallente system, you'd experience normal warp throughout Jita, followed by accelerated warp to Perimeter, then normal warp through that, and another interstellar crossing to Iyen-Oursta.

Space speed limits with Spacepolice. But really, lore-wise it could be explained that the interstellar warp speeds are impossible due to the density of particles inside the solar systems, hence no change in current local warp speeds.

I quite like the concept, but no more than 3 current solar systems should be combined into such pockets as to not reduce player interaction significantly. The chokepoints would naturally move to the entrances and exits of these new mini-constellations.

Elaborate on the interdiction checks, please.

And tell me what happens with my capacitor when I re-enter normal warp.


Currently, this sounds like an anti-bumping auto-pilot mode. Your proposal is a stealth ganking nerf. To be blunt, this doesn't sound fun at all. It'd very likely be trivial for CCP to implement in the current engine.

Based on your current description, the space immediately around gates are going to be dead silent along trade routes. The only gates that will have any indication of human beings playing a game together is going to be found in trade and mission hubs.

Honestly, re-work your idea because you're taking more player interaction out than you're adding with interdiction.