EVE General Discussion

I came back 2 years ago and joined up with a industrial corp in as some sort of renter. I really enjoyed being in null, but not overly worried about CTA and such. When i started in Eve i was in a post secondary college doing IT stuff, then unemployed .. so i had time a plenty. Now i am a professional, a husband, a home owner, and a father of 2. Free time is no longer in great supply and I dont have time in game to spend 1 hour forming up, 2 hours moving and fighting and hour getting home .. I have 1-2 hrs .. and i might have to get up from the computer to change a diaper, flip the laundry, feed the cats, and god knows what else.

I left them when a work colleague going through some stuff pulled me into a couple of AAA MMO titles.. But eventually running about in fantasy land, doing quest after quest after quest in some strange headlong flight to get to end game content .. just made me get back to eve where the end content is what you start doing on day one - if you so desire.

This time i knew i wanted to do some bucket list stuff. So i joined RvB. Pvp all the time, some teaching with the newbros who seems to join all the time (i wouldnt have thought i could when i started if such a thing had existed), and alot of learning .. i knew a little about pvp .. but i feel in a much better position now. Also got my skills up and finaly hit 100m SP. I know i should be at 200m or something silly after being a day one player .. but i didnt use implants.. cross trained .. and went afk for years. so it is what is ..

Eventually, last fall i got the hankering to try out 2 of my bucket list things .. Incursions and WH. I did incursions with the uni group .. but found i was spending more time chasing after incursions and not enough time actually doing them. The uni community was too small sadly .. but i much preferred running with them .. they were more helpful, better and instructions and not all crazed like most of the communities .. who all seemed like they were coke addicts .. I jest but the level of intensity was a little heightened and didnt make it conducive to having a fun hour .. people just took it too seriously.

I then go myself back into the Uni so i could learn about WH out at their campus. Was really cool .. but then my 2nd daughter was born and i had less and less time .. and no way to make sure i could stay in space with all the afore mentioned draws on my time. So i wandered off again ..

Over the years i have played so many other games .. but only Eve keeps drawing me back in. Even though im not good at it.. even though i cant make up my mind what i want to do in it, even though as the years go by i have less and less friends, even though the game changes so much that i really cant call myself a vet anymore .. and i know less about current mechanics than someone who has been only playing for a few months.

I still maintain it is the best MMO built to date .. and a lot of that comes from the players and the tools that we have been provided .. It amazes me how absolutely weak other MMO's com / chat systems are... why would you ever restrict the amount of channels people can create and run inside a multiplayer game. Boggles the mind and such a easy thing to implement with such a huge boon to the whole player interaction part of the game. I think it somewhat interesting that my Eve experience started on IRC - and the chat Eve has is much the same, allowing whatever level of fidelity the players want to push at it.

Anyhow after that exceedingly long preamble i come to crux of why I am writing this all out, which is really for myself more than anything. My friend has been babbling on about Star Citizen for a few weeks ..and it got me to thinking about the whole interest in a new game coming out, and how will it fit within the MMO world. The more i look at SC the more i ended up thinking about Eve. I started watching videos from the fanfests starting with the keynote from 2013 - love Hilmar's story of the early gameplay. Was so much fun starting off .. no one had BS .. they hadnt been built yet, and or no one had amassed the isk yet.

SC will probably be that sort of fun, new undiscovered country .. but its gona be so far behind Eve which has had 13 years (besides the years of development) to sort itself out. Anyhow .. yesterday and today i was watching 2015 fanfest stuff .. and sorta like being homesick .. i feel the very strong urge that I have to come back to Eve- again. But what am i gona do this time? With all the experiences what have i learned about Eve and myself?

I dont think i will remain in WH space.. Its too PvE, with some PvP but its 20v1 or 1v20 sorta pvp i dont really care for. I dont really want to make isk, i just go to work make $$ and then buy plex so i can enjoy the game. I love to work in game for common goals .. i would mine all day for the corp cause .. or to help a bud .,. but after and hour for myself im done. WH space is loads of fun, never know what the next WH down the chain is gona bring .. but it is lacking something ..

PvP in RvB was great, loads and loads of unadulterated fun , fights all the time, chit chat on the voice coms, theorycrafting .. but the fights felt hollow, I wasn’t protecting space, taking space, interdicting the enemy, protecting allies .. it was just like playing a FPS and not like playing WWIIonline or even Planetside – I want my pvp to mean something .. to have a reason behind. Even though it was good fun I crave more. I think Im done with highsec for a while as well. On one side its too much like the MMOs I don’t like the play .. almost everything is solo playable .. aside from incursions and I don’t think I fit in there . and I don’t need the money .. so…

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Youve got a great story there. I really wished folks would write more of these.

Your post here might get moved to the My EVE section. Still a good read.

I think this is the first time on the forums that I read such a long post in full rather than skimming for the main parts.

Nice read.

This made me smile :)

Nice read and welcome back.

As for the changes, I'd suggest Googling and reading patch notes. The word you're looking for is "Phoebe". That's the name of the patch that neutered capitals and their jumpdrives. Read it well, because it's a pretty standard CCP mechanic; once you get it, it makes perfect sense and you'll have no problem using it. But before that moment of dawning its more like: Wtf is this sh**?

I am sorry to inform you that the answer is no, this thread will not get moved.

Welcome back to EvE OP!

Enlighten me why as the OP only talks about his experiences in eve he had and isn't asking for help or a question and i've seen numerous of these get moved to a subforum or just locked?Don't get me wrong i don't care if it get's moved or not and found it a nice read but i never understand the logic in the moderation here.

Well the only logic i can put on it , if it is positive about eve then leave it in GD , if it isn't positive either lock it or move it to the corners of the forum allmost no one reads.

thanks for the reply

I forgot to mention FW is on my bucket list .. but i think i will leave that for the next time i get fed up with nullsec. I think you are right in that it would most definitely work well with my current life status, would allow for pve + pvp + co-op work .. but i think it would be more sorta like RvB - in that the combat although a heck of a lot of fun, and the people making it a great experience that the end goal, the main point is to fight for fun or as part as some npc based game mechanic .. and the taking and holding of player owned space.

As a long time military history buff (have the degree - check), and general student of strategic studies, international conflict, political science, and the like .. i am really drawn to the aspects of eve that encompass those avenues of thinking. Perhaps i should read more on FW .. but i think i need to re-immerse myself in the big crazy world of nullsec alliance warfare again.

Although i could search for myself - someone might have just the right link for "what is FW" video or blog or wiki or text write up that in depth encapsulates the whole thing. I do trust my googling .. but you never know if you might miss some great nugget of wisdom.

I hear ya. Early 2004 player here myself, with similar long intermissions between playing.
You seem to have the benefit of still having your group of people to play with, our group just sort of drifted apart, and I have no idea where most of them are these days :(
All in all your post resonated strongly with me. Started out as a young guy with plenty of time myself, and find myself with less and less time to actually play anymore, even though I, like you, think this is one of the best, if not the best, MMO made so far. It just ticks (ticked) all my boxes.

Perhaps all of us 'disenfranchised' oldies should just start a corp or something and see if we can rekindle the fun and camaraderie I miss these days, and tell stories to the youngins about the good old days...

Welcome back.

Ascendant Frontier, eh? They were the inheritors of the XETIC Federation, which I was a part of, and later left due to the impotence in their leadership to join the The Five & delete the weak.

http://nightwalkers.be/files/thekiller8/ep1.swf

Glorious times - Eve had more charm back then in my opinion, and has grown stale since due to the donuts and whatnot. CAOD brought the much-needed and integral drama then too - http://nightwalkers.be/files/thekiller8/ep2.swf

Now it is empty.

You reminded me ... I need to check jabber.

Cheers!