EVE General Discussion

I'm not too up on the changes that have taken place in Eve over the last 3+ years. Pretty frequently I see mention, usually on the forums but sometimes ingame, of players who make boatloads of isk doing different activities. People who say they make hundreds of millions of isk per hour with 1-3 accounts running escalations or station trading or in some manufacturing or PI niche, or in a few other activities.

How much truth is there to these claims? What percentage of Eve players really make that much isk that quickly?


Personally I run 5 accounts in small mining ops that I am the only real player involved in, and I generally enjoy doing so because it lets me play when I want to for how long I want to with the amount of effort that I feel like putting into the game during that time. While actively mining, my handful of characters (who have like 4-5 months of skill training each) can make perhaps 60 million isk per hour in high sec, but I'm not "actively mining" all the time since there's some logistics to do and I spend some of my play time working on other things ingame that don't make me much (or any) isk.

Despite generally enjoying what I do, it bums me out a little when I think that what I'm working towards, amassing wealth, is being done so much better by others. Please spare me the "well play smarter then" comments though, because I know that if I have the will, there are ways to do "better" for myself. I'm just curious how many people really are out there generating that kind of wealth compared to how many people are just running level 4s solo or mining somewhere or another with a single account or dabbling in station trading or roaming around lowsec trying to ransom random people, and more likely making just a bit more isk than they need to get by rather than stockpiling isk and other assets.

Okay, so you have to read and think along.


You are doing it wrong.
I can make money just by talking with people.


If you play isolated, you will never understand that it's the opportunities that make you money.

Of course you can waste your lifetime doing the same thing absolutely most do in the real world ...
... grinding for money ...
... and there's lots of people getting rich from wasting their lifetime grinding for money ...


There are many many things to do in this game, which you can all do for money.
The best ways are those that remove you from isolation.
Interaction with others always allows for opportunities.
Of course at first that's something that's need to be learned,
but eventually they just "fly by" and you grab them as you see them.






Oh and on an absolutely personal note .......


... YOU HAVE TO WORK?????? FOR MONEY???? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!

Speaking from experience, yes you can make hundred of millions of ISK an hour. Depending on how you try and do that however, you may come to hate the game itself.

... cure cancer ... create great artwork ... something ...

The trick is to find the right balance for yourself between 'Making lots of Isk' and 'Making lots of fun'.
Some players are really having fun while going all the way and through a lot of effort to find the optimum in (insert activity here) for their maximum Isk/hour ratio, while others are equally having as much fun doing something entirely different while always on the edge of bankruptcy.

The tipping point is different for everyone and for you to find out were yours lies. The thing is, making/having fun should always be on top of the list, above making Isk.

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Some times people exxagerate, intnetionally or based on fault memories. I was in an incursion fleet a coupel weeks ago when a guy clamed he made 7 billion isk per day "in null sec doing anomalies and their escalations 4 years ago" lol, I had to bite my tongue, 7 bil isn't theoretically impossible, but it 4 years ago it would have required getting like 3 10/10s in a day and all of them dropping the rarest and thus most expensive loot. Hell it highly improbable that this has happened more than once or twice in the entire lifespan of the game lol.

As for how many people do what, that's not just unknowable by us with access to CCPs data bases, it's irrelevant. It doesn't change your personal facts. CCP recently said that they were aware of carriers speed blitzing lvl 5 s for insane amounts of isk , but they weren't concerned because there wasn't a lot of people doing it. I think they are wrong, but they are the DEVs not me.

It's also important to know that a lot of "I make X isk in Y hours" have at least soft caps that would start being lower and lower if more people actually joined on that bandwagon of ISK making.

If many more people were trading, the margins would go down and with it the profits.
If many more people were ratting, lesser anoms would ahve to be cleared for lesser income.
If many more people were running missions, the LP store items would overflow the market.
More people mining, less isk/m3.
More people running incursion, not enough sites to run HQ fleet at peak efficiency or contest with potential 0 isk sites.

It basicly applies to everything not hard capped in the game.

Same.. Mainly I like the challenge of making my ISK ingame only, it's part of my "fun" :)

Being poor in game and not willing to dump more than base sub money on the game prevent me from doing such thing. But then again, some people could consider this as bad as I will probably never know what it feels like to do such things.

Oh well...

You think the majority of Eve players own more than 100 billion in assets? Or do you not have the same definition of "lower middle class" as I do?


It seems like a lot of you are reading into my post too much. I really am not too interested in changing what I do, hearing about how mining is a profession for peasants, or really receiving any kind of advice at all, since I didn't try to solicit any. I'm just wondering what approximate percentage of people actually make 200m+ per hour of active playtime.

I do appreciate the posts, though.