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Scorpion Navy advice

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Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#21 - 2015-04-20 00:01:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Blodhgarm Dethahal
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Ignore this guy.

The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots.

Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?


[Rattlesnake, Buffer]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Praetor II x2
Ogre II x2

1352 DPS.. 140k EHP.. 435 mill ISK..

Yes.. tell me more how a Rattlesnake is not as cost effective (and lets keep in mind we can get even more DPS out of it! and even more tank! if we drop a web and heavy neut for a 2nd extender and a 5th launcher!)

Lets see.. oh yes.. Navy Scorps cost 620 mill...

Oh and look at that.. 540 mill for a Navy Raven too...

And just because.. Fleet Typhoons go for about 460 mill

So the just the HULL ALONE for the other faction missile boats cost MORE than the hull+fitting of a Rattlesnake... and it has the DPS of a dual weapon system, and a resist bonus..

So again.. tell me how the Rattlesnake is not cost effective in comparison to other Faction/Pirate missile boats..

Also he didn't say he would be soloing.. he said he would be working in a small gang..

And is he better off starting off PvP small? yeah.. but he didn't ask for that advice.. he just wanted a fit.. and he got some..
Conflict Engaged
State War Academy
Caldari State
#22 - 2015-04-20 22:06:13 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Conflict Engaged wrote:
Ignore this guy.

The same could be said for your own advice. The Rattlesnake actually does more missile damage then the Navy Scorpion and has a heavier tank despite only 7 mid slots.

Considering he's new, spending 800 mil on a hull, then spending even more on fitting for that hull which will actually make it useful will be expensive, and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to lose that kind of ISK as a newb to PvP, so why give advice to do so? That's just silly. And who solo PvPs in a Battleship?


[Rattlesnake, Buffer]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

100MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Large Shield Extender II
Warp Scrambler II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Stasis Webifier II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Cruise Missile
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Large Ancillary Current Router I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Praetor II x2
Ogre II x2

1352 DPS.. 140k EHP.. 435 mill ISK..

Yes.. tell me more how a Rattlesnake is not as cost effective (and lets keep in mind we can get even more DPS out of it! and even more tank! if we drop a web and heavy neut for a 2nd extender and a 5th launcher!)

Lets see.. oh yes.. Navy Scorps cost 620 mill...

Oh and look at that.. 540 mill for a Navy Raven too...

And just because.. Fleet Typhoons go for about 460 mill

So the just the HULL ALONE for the other faction missile boats cost MORE than the hull+fitting of a Rattlesnake... and it has the DPS of a dual weapon system, and a resist bonus..

So again.. tell me how the Rattlesnake is not cost effective in comparison to other Faction/Pirate missile boats..

Also he didn't say he would be soloing.. he said he would be working in a small gang..

And is he better off starting off PvP small? yeah.. but he didn't ask for that advice.. he just wanted a fit.. and he got some..

Sorry, I didn't realise 500 mil was a **** in the ocean for those starting PvP, and considering you can squeeze that kind of damage from other drone boats in the game for less, that's nothing to be proud of. Solo or small gang, it's going to be too much. No one said anything about a Navy Raven, and my argument here was that spending that kind of ISK on a ship that's going to get blown up, for a person new to PvP, that's just stupid. Your fit in general isn't effective for small gang either. And starting smaller may not be the advice he was looking for, but I'm not going to watch people give him fits like yours, spend too much ISK and then get it blown up and be confused as to why. If you can't see that, then you obviously don't PvP.
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