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Vikarion
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-04-14 02:56:01 UTC
Makoto Priano wrote:
Kraid-haan; report of the Empress Jamyl single-handedly destroying a Matari capital ship fleet came alongside reports of her rising from the dead as salvation from God, I believe. I'm not sure I can speak as to how reliable these reports are.


Well, something destroyed that Minmatar fleet. You can visit the wreckage.

Of course, a zombie savior princess with a superweapon is something that even a disreputable publisher of pulp fiction would reject, but it appears we have no choice.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2015-04-14 03:07:31 UTC
Was it attempt of disrespect towards rightful ruler of the Empire?..

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2015-04-14 03:18:08 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Was it attempt of disrespect towards rightful ruler of the Empire?..


We meant ALL the disrespect towards the Zombie Savior Princess with superweapon.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2015-04-14 04:30:33 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Was it attempt of disrespect towards rightful ruler of the Empire?..


We meant ALL the disrespect towards the Zombie Savior Princess with superweapon.

And this is why we can't have good things...

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Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#25 - 2015-04-14 06:43:22 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
No doubt it's fun to play "no you" game, but once in a while it's good to look at the bigger picture too.

You really need to be preaching that message to your brethren.

As for seeing the "big picture" we in the Republic see it quite well and much better than any other people who haven't forcibly been made a part of the empire. So long as the so-called reclaiming remains part of imperial policy/doctrine/dogma the Amarr will continue to be a threat to the rest of humanity. That's exactly why we remain vigilant.

P.S. Just for the record, Pilot Shutaq, there are Matari ships, crews and pilots in space each and every day battling against the Sansha monsters (that incidentally were originally nurtured and shielded in Amarr space), the Angels, Blooders, EOM, Guristas, etc. Just because we also view you imperials as a clear and present danger to our people doesn't mean that other threats have disappeared from our radar

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#26 - 2015-04-14 07:04:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Xindi Kraid
Makoto Priano wrote:
Kraid-haan; report of the Empress Jamyl single-handedly destroying a Matari capital ship fleet came alongside reports of her rising from the dead as salvation from God, I believe. I'm not sure I can speak as to how reliable these reports are.
Yes, because nobody comes back from the dead nowadays.
She's a capsuleer, so that's hardly a feat, though the claim as being salvation from god is what stretches credibility.

Still, I remain surprised the Amarr let a clone lead them.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-04-14 09:47:38 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
...Us capsuleers may one day find out that we are no longer the top of the food chain, atleast if we don't find a way to move back to the top again....


We aren't, we are expendable reusable assets. The empires take a calculated risk releasing us into the wild but in Empire space at least they still have CONCORD to keep us in line. Sometimes I think the faction wars going on in various areas are just to keep us entertained and occupied anywhere but in Empire space, but without us going rogue in null.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#28 - 2015-04-14 09:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Still, I remain surprised the Amarr let a clone lead them.


Her Imperial Majesty is not a clone.


On this topic: How is this news surprising people? Reverse engineering drifter technology should be expected considering how powerful it is and how much of a threat they can potentially pose to us. The other empires would have to be really stupid if they are not doing the same thing. Forgive us for being honest about doing the same thing that everyone else is doing.

The only reason there's any fuss at all is because it is Amarr that is doing it. Oh no, the evil Amarr do research and development. Gasp, shock.

You people will complain about anything.
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2015-04-14 10:56:30 UTC
Even if it is not viable for weaponisation, at least with our current technological boundaries, then it would at least provide knowledge of what can defend against them, so that in time we can actually defend ourselves against their devestating weaponary.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#30 - 2015-04-14 12:24:21 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Yes, because we all know how responsible the Republic would be with it, blowing up CONCORD stations and launching small invasions of the Federation every now and then.


The Empire is the whole reason the elder fleet attacked Concord, the blood is on the hands of the Amarr for making that necessary in the first place. The Republic has plenty of problems you dont need to add blame for things that were merely reasonable responses to a situation that the Empire created.


Reasonable... ?
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#31 - 2015-04-14 12:39:40 UTC
Lyn Farel wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Yes, because we all know how responsible the Republic would be with it, blowing up CONCORD stations and launching small invasions of the Federation every now and then.


The Empire is the whole reason the elder fleet attacked Concord, the blood is on the hands of the Amarr for making that necessary in the first place. The Republic has plenty of problems you dont need to add blame for things that were merely reasonable responses to a situation that the Empire created.


Reasonable... ?


Yes. Reasonable. Just like it was reasonable the Nation struck back at those who attempted to eradicate it so long ago. Do we all have such short memories that we expect groups who suffered injustices to ignore the desire for vengeance?

It anything the fact that the elder fleet wasn't used as a cover for a surface bombardment of major amarrian population centers, should make us appreciate the restraint that was shown during this attack. Millions perhaps billions more could have died if that is what had been desired.

The Empire, State, Republic, or Feredation would likely use this new technology for purposes against what is in our best interests.
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2015-04-14 12:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Foley Aberas Jones
I really hope they develop a new quality firearm for us grunts.

Something that shoots chainsaw guns that shoot other chainsaws that shoot lasers powered by the element that can ricochet off organic matter

Also have the first chainsaw have built in heat seeking guidance

Then have the magazine contain 50 guns chainsaws , have another magazine attached to the bottom for quick reloadibg.

Then have a holoscope on it that shoots lasers capable of melting though tanks...Anti-tank features

On the bottom of the barrel rhere will be a grenade luancher that could also be another barrel to fire chainsaw guns out of


THEN we allow it to be shoulder mounted for ultimate mobility

Also the grenade launch from befoee can fire a MIRV type grenade that explode with other chainsaws


Also it can fire the prototype mini doomsday weapon Huogikku corp is devoloping


Not too much to ask...
Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#33 - 2015-04-14 13:10:17 UTC
At this point we only seem to have a (most likely very well calculated) press release by Imperial Armaments. The announcement of doing research on the Antikythera Element is, as Makoto Priano stated, very expectable. I don't feel like it does matter who announces first. We still do not know what any useful application of the Element would look like. More important seems to me that the Antikythera Element is distributed across several nations and not solely accessable to one faction. Corprorative reasoning within all nations will most likely solve the riddle of the Element very soon. Then we shall see if it fosters peaceful or military endeavours. Or both.

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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-04-14 13:13:49 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
....
Of course, a zombie savior princess with a superweapon is something that even a disreputable publisher of pulp fiction would reject...


I'm sure I saw a holoreel with such a character in. I don't remember much of the budget being spent on the wardrobe department either Twisted
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#35 - 2015-04-14 17:00:52 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

Her Imperial Majesty is not a clone.

Logic dictates that she likely is. How do you explain her "coming back from the dead" after the succession trials? There are only 2 possibilities; either she faked her death back then and went into hiding waiting for the right moment to "return" in triumph or, she did indeed kill herself and was resurrected in a new clone, the same as any other pod pilot.

Of course you imperials will eschew these logical explanations in favor of the mambo-jumbo conclusion that your deity reanimated her and returned her to service just in time to save the empire.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#36 - 2015-04-14 17:29:25 UTC
On one hand, Amarr is working towards this weapon, which its pretty obvious what it will be used on, on the other hand we don't know what the drifters plan on using what we don't know about yet aside from speculation. I really don't like this situation. Though if they do the dirty work then it won't be long until everyone else is fielding these weapons.Quite the catch 22, isn't it....?

Ugh
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2015-04-14 18:17:42 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
On one hand, Amarr is working towards this weapon, which its pretty obvious what it will be used on, on the other hand we don't know what the drifters plan on using what we don't know about yet aside from speculation. I really don't like this situation. Though if they do the dirty work then it won't be long until everyone else is fielding these weapons.Quite the catch 22, isn't it....?

Ugh


Since you could buy Confessors on the open market just as early as a Minmatar pilot as you could if you were an Amarrian pilot, I think any concern here is unwarranted...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#38 - 2015-04-14 19:05:35 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

Her Imperial Majesty is not a clone.

Logic dictates that she likely is. How do you explain her "coming back from the dead" after the succession trials? There are only 2 possibilities; either she faked her death back then and went into hiding waiting for the right moment to "return" in triumph or, she did indeed kill herself and was resurrected in a new clone, the same as any other pod pilot.

Exactly, hence, clone. If she isn't a clone and indeed just faked her death then that would speak ill of her character.

Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

Since you could buy Confessors on the open market just as early as a Minmatar pilot as you could if you were an Amarrian pilot, I think any concern here is unwarranted...

I was under the impression that the concern here was what the Amarr Navy is going to be equipped with in the future rather than what will be disseminated into capsuleer and privateer ranks.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#39 - 2015-04-14 19:25:49 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:


Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

Since you could buy Confessors on the open market just as early as a Minmatar pilot as you could if you were an Amarrian pilot, I think any concern here is unwarranted...

I was under the impression that the concern here was what the Amarr Navy is going to be equipped with in the future rather than what will be disseminated into capsuleer and privateer ranks.


For the most part, ya thats the case, though it wouldn't be unheard of for the empires to have us do the fighting so in hindsight that's not really a major fear, to me at least.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2015-04-14 19:59:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Lyn Farel wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:
Yes, because we all know how responsible the Republic would be with it, blowing up CONCORD stations and launching small invasions of the Federation every now and then.


The Empire is the whole reason the elder fleet attacked Concord, the blood is on the hands of the Amarr for making that necessary in the first place. The Republic has plenty of problems you dont need to add blame for things that were merely reasonable responses to a situation that the Empire created.


Reasonable... ?


Yes. Reasonable. Just like it was reasonable the Nation struck back at those who attempted to eradicate it so long ago. Do we all have such short memories that we expect groups who suffered injustices to ignore the desire for vengeance?

It anything the fact that the elder fleet wasn't used as a cover for a surface bombardment of major amarrian population centers, should make us appreciate the restraint that was shown during this attack. Millions perhaps billions more could have died if that is what had been desired.


Maybe you should visit what actually happened on say... Halthurzan, and witness what are the consequences of massive slave uprisings, general disorder and anarchy, post apocalyptic scenery, and perhaps most importantly the widespread use of aerosol Insorum as a weapon of mass destruction, and the genetic fallout that happened after that, and still happens today.

I am sorry, but where does actually lie that absence of surface bombardment ? Some even actually go to some lenghts debating what is worse between Amarrian retributive fleets glassing whole planets as a way to quench rebellions, and Minmatar fleets using wide spectrum atmospheric biohazard weapons at the same scale of application.

Did you mean, an eye for an eye instead of restraint, per chance ?
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