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Joe Cheap
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-04 09:00:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Joe Cheap
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-04 09:07:16 UTC
Joe Cheap wrote:
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life



You act surprised?

Of course Tornado pilots are discovering very quick like that they are hosed if they get tackled, there have been some real comedy KM's
Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
#3 - 2011-12-04 09:37:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Nares
Joe Cheap wrote:
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life


Small, medium and large blasters will now receive +5% to damage multiplier (c) Patchnotes.

How did you expect blasters become viable if changes are negligible? 5% DPS is nothing.
Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#4 - 2011-12-04 18:08:39 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Joe Cheap wrote:
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life



You act surprised?

Of course tier 3 bc pilots are discovering very quick like that they are hosed if they get tackled, there have been some real comedy KM's


Fixed.
White Matar Ra
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-12-04 18:14:40 UTC
Good news bros, Liang says gallente are OP now and minmatar is old news.

Be ahead of the game and buy some over-priced blasters/magstabs while the market is still inflated. Twisted
Joe Cheap
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-12-04 21:44:07 UTC
who the **** is Liang?
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-12-04 22:03:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
EVEKill Top 20

6 Tornado 4148

Not listed. The other Tier 3's.
Skinae
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-04 22:39:49 UTC
Who gives a **** what Liang says, if you like hearing some guy talk about how many push-ups he can do on twitter, then I guess what he says is informative.

Blasters are still awful.

Bonafide Film House a Bozeman Video Production Company and Montana Wedding Video Company
Goose99
#9 - 2011-12-04 22:58:17 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
EVEKill Top 20

6 Tornado 4148

Not listed. The other Tier 3's.


^This, lulz

Captain Nares wrote:
Joe Cheap wrote:
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life


Small, medium and large blasters will now receive +5% to damage multiplier (c) Patchnotes.

How did you expect blasters become viable if changes are negligible? 5% DPS is nothing.


You'd have to get into range to apply that 5%. So it comes out to around 0%.Lol
Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
#10 - 2011-12-04 23:16:30 UTC
Goose99 wrote:

You'd have to get into range to apply that 5%. So it comes out to around 0%.Lol


You understand blaster concept perfectlyRoll
Skinae
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-12-04 23:25:51 UTC
Captain Nares wrote:
Goose99 wrote:

You'd have to get into range to apply that 5%. So it comes out to around 0%.Lol


You understand blaster concept perfectlyRoll


He's actually totally correct.

Bonafide Film House a Bozeman Video Production Company and Montana Wedding Video Company
Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority
#12 - 2011-12-04 23:42:50 UTC
Ehm, afaik, Neutron Blaster dps @ point ranges with Null is quite respectable in both nagas and taloses.
If your idea of PvP is "let the suckers tackle and I do dps from 50+", then the blaster ships don't cut it, and Oracle / Tornado do the job better. So?

Blasters did get a good buff...5% more dps, easier fitting = more and more ships fit a tier higher guns with no/fewer fitting mods.

"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." -- Bertrand Russell

Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#13 - 2011-12-04 23:57:53 UTC
Diomidis wrote:
Ehm, afaik, Neutron Blaster dps @ point ranges with Null is quite respectable in both nagas and taloses.
If your idea of PvP is "let the suckers tackle and I do dps from 50+", then the blaster ships don't cut it, and Oracle / Tornado do the job better. So?

Blasters did get a good buff...5% more dps, easier fitting = more and more ships fit a tier higher guns with no/fewer fitting mods.


Well, think about it:
- 5% more DPS
- 20% more tracking
- Easier fittings lets you fit Neutrons and/or more tank and/or more range. (More damage, more range)
- Faster/more agile ships (This is a really big deal)
- 5 second reload time lets you realistically switch between Null/Void/AM.

I really didn't believe the hybrid changes would really be enough - but I'm really warming to them a lot.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Skinae
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-05 00:34:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Skinae
Spraying some room freshener on a pile of dog ****, does not negate the fact that it is a pile of dog ****.

-SKINAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bonafide Film House a Bozeman Video Production Company and Montana Wedding Video Company
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-12-05 00:43:04 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Diomidis wrote:
Ehm, afaik, Neutron Blaster dps @ point ranges with Null is quite respectable in both nagas and taloses.
If your idea of PvP is "let the suckers tackle and I do dps from 50+", then the blaster ships don't cut it, and Oracle / Tornado do the job better. So?

Blasters did get a good buff...5% more dps, easier fitting = more and more ships fit a tier higher guns with no/fewer fitting mods.


Well, think about it:
- 5% more DPS
- 20% more tracking
- Easier fittings lets you fit Neutrons and/or more tank and/or more range. (More damage, more range)
- Faster/more agile ships (This is a really big deal)
- 5 second reload time lets you realistically switch between Null/Void/AM.

I really didn't believe the hybrid changes would really be enough - but I'm really warming to them a lot.

-Liang



still think there's space for a bit more mobility and damage without making them overpowered.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-12-05 01:38:49 UTC
Joe Cheap wrote:
Tornado is the new **** and blasters boats still sucks

CCP strikes again

Winmatar for life



If you tested those on SISI you weren't posting this. Everyone who already tested every version of those on SISI knows how bad Talos is despite many trying to convinve themselves 1400DPS shield Talos is a win while for truth is just a joke because:

-range engagement ability

-range dmg projection

=

Super Brutix for gank, so if you couldn't gank Macks or Hulks with Brutix before for whatever reason now you can do it for sure with Talos, it's just more expensive, a lot more expensive.

Now some will use it to gank miners, I'll still use brutix 5x cheaper Lol
To mare
Advanced Technology
#17 - 2011-12-05 02:39:59 UTC
i kill tornados in my shield brutix
Joe Cheap
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2011-12-05 05:15:02 UTC
well i kill Vaga too in my Brutix, but cause of bad pilot not because of the ships.

Tornado goeas around 1600/1800m/s Unheated. It' s 30% faster then a Cane, just saying.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-05 05:17:38 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
EVEKill Top 20

6 Tornado 4148

Not listed. The other Tier 3's.



Yup saw about 85 get bombed this afternoon.
Snyderm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2011-12-05 16:51:38 UTC
On the plus side, my hyperion is now a much better isk maker than my tengu.

Its not all bad, just mostly bad.
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