EVE General Discussion

Well Star Fraction certainly deployed ours for neutral access. Currently we're charging everyone friendly/neutral/red a tax rate of 0.01% (it should be zero but the POCO system is currently bugged and it resets a tax rate of actually zero to 5% after downtime). Until this is fixed we're going with the 0.01% rate which hopefully won't inconvenience PI players too much.

It probably is a bit early in the game to get an accurate read. I also agree that the majority of PCO's have likely been placed by Null Sec or WH based entities, as both groups tend to know how to work together and use the advantages of the area of space they are in to defend their assets.

One of the theories circulating was that Null Sec entities would systematically destroy Low Sec PCO's to remove competition, or would be proactive in destroying Low Sec IBCO's and putting their own PCO's in place while they don't have to deal with reinforcement timers. The latter being somewhat time sensitive.

Perhaps they are just waiting for more Low Sec PCO's to go up to farm kill mails. Vastly increasing the time to take them down by going through a reinforcement timer with little likelihood of getting a fight out of it seems a bit of a stretch though.

I won't debate whether Null Sec Alliances should reap the rewards of leveraging their resources better than less organized groups. I will point out that PI profits (taxes aside) do not go to corporations or alliances. They go directly into the pockets of the industrial grunts, their working class citizens. Even savings for their corp owned POS fuel bills only happen if they have an "arrangement" with their members to receive a discount compared to what the PI harvester could make by simply selling his goods on the market. Obviously there will be alts of the "management" that can provide some of the needed fuel, but that will hardly supply any extensive POS network.

Anyway, that's not the point of this thread. It's more to act as a barometer of just how successful, or how much of a failure, the whole PCO mechanic is.

POCO's are getting nuked left and right in lowsec, especially around the militia zones. We are happy to take control of the planets and offer Empire citizens discount tax rates as a reward for taking the plunge outside highsec.

If you are in Minmatar space, and are looking for an alternative place to do PI to avoid the ridiculous highsec tax rates, come out to the Huvilma constellation. We're offering discount taxes on planets with even more riches than anything you'd find in highsec.

Your right.

Do something about it.

Outstanding! Thanks for the update.

Apparently it pays to support your local militia.

Oh, and lest I forget, kudo's to Star Fraction as well.

i remember it as the scorpion and the fox. maybe its a different version

You sure it wasn't the scorpion and the drake?

The zero tax angle is an ideological one really - part of Star Fraction roleplay. Jericho Fraction corporation has run with zero tax for eight years now. The bottom line on the POCO's is they will pay for themselves eventually just allowing our own PI guys to export for free and we want to encourage other neutrals to our theatre of operations so we can sell things to them :)

This is what I can call excellent player driven content. I may not agree on everything you guys do, we'd get bored if so, but this small little thing is very important and show example to this community.

gratz

Speaking for our organization we build ALOT of tech2. We use ALOT of tower products, we buy ALOT of stuff. Having PI industrialists producing and selling locally is good. Sure its part of our RP ideology to be zero tax freespace etc but its also sound business strategy to encourage healthy markets.