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Kiting is not cancer...

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wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#121 - 2015-05-01 02:42:42 UTC
i may have used the same fit as you. but your fit was in no way amazing or requiring outside-the-box thinking

fitting ships in eve is not difficult

pretty much the only case where a fit really impressed me was quake's thrasher. and yes i shamelessly copied it

and yes it is lame to only fly the same risk-averse ship over and over and over and nothing else
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#122 - 2015-05-01 02:47:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
wilgotna wrote:
i may have used the same fit as you. but your fit was in no way amazing or requiring outside-the-box thinking

fitting ships in eve is not difficult

pretty much the only case where a fit really impressed me was quake's thrasher. and yes i shamelessly copied it

and yes it is lame to only fly the same risk-averse ship over and over and over and nothing else


You are welcome, one day people will copy and thank you too. Its no big deal. No thanks necessary!

Pretty sure quake was not the author of the 10mn arty thrasher, but you dont seem in the mood for an education lol.

He was just cool because he used 10mn arty thrasher for a year and a half and i was lame because i use a maulus for a year and a half. Your consistency is your best feature :)
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#123 - 2015-05-01 03:09:39 UTC
there are a few key differences between you and quake

1. he used the thrasher to fight 1v2 1v3 etc :versus: you are a puss

2. he is a skilled pilot :versus: you use snaked/linked kiting ships, hit orbit and then go afk

3. brawling with a thrasher :versus: you are a snaked/linked kiting puss

4. he fights other good pvpers :versus: you warp the instant you see anyone scary

5. anyone who is interested in eve pvp knows quake :versus: nobody knows or cares about you except to use you as an example of a puss like i do
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#124 - 2015-05-01 03:14:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
wilgotna wrote:
there are a few key differences between you and quake

1. he used the thrasher to fight 1v2 1v3 etc :versus: you are a puss

2. he is a skilled pilot :versus: you use snaked/linked kiting ships, hit orbit and then go afk

3. brawling with a thrasher :versus: you are a snaked/linked kiting puss

4. he fights other good pvpers :versus: you warp the instant you see anyone scary

5. anyone who is interested in eve pvp knows quake :versus: nobody knows or cares about you except to use you as an example of a puss like i do


You seem to care about me, quite a lot.

i didnt design the game, perhaps you should direct your hate towards ccp and see how that works out for you lol.
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#125 - 2015-05-01 03:19:02 UTC
every single one of my game design criticisms is directed at ccp.

please dont confuse this with my criticisms of you as a pilot, which are directed at you
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#126 - 2015-05-01 03:25:31 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
every single one of my game design criticisms is directed at ccp.

please dont confuse this with my criticisms of you as a pilot, which are directed at you


You might want to try harder, because as it is, it seems you are just obsessed with me. Ive never said im a good solo pilot or better than anyone. However i do get a lot of insecure players thinking that i do say these things. Ill leave it there.
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#127 - 2015-05-01 03:30:46 UTC
keep putting words in my mouth you sad little man

im not going to just let you spew your filth without responding, if that gives the illusion that im obsessed with you then thats just the way it has to be. by that logic you are equally obsessed with me.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#128 - 2015-05-01 03:33:07 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
keep putting words in my mouth you sad little man

im not going to just let you spew your filth without responding, if that gives the illusion that im obsessed with you then thats just the way it has to be. by that logic you are equally obsessed with me.


You dont have to prove my point, but if you insist.
Dato Koppla
Neuronix
#129 - 2015-05-01 03:39:22 UTC
The butthurt levels....it's over 9000!
Krops Vont
#130 - 2015-05-02 04:34:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Krops Vont
I'll chip in my two isk. Bring more counter to speedy things. Those fancy blood raider ships recently got a web range bonus & some nice minmatar ships also. There were a few ships with web effectiveness...

Hell. I even decided to use a 100mn lach for these "impossible cancer ridden ships flying about."

If you cant counter it in any way possible, its broken. If its the widely used meta, there's bound to be a ship change as there always has been with CCP.

Edit: Best quote by my friend, "If everyone's kiting, no one is."

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#131 - 2015-05-02 06:15:03 UTC
Krops Vont wrote:
I'll chip in my two isk. Bring more counter to speedy things. Those fancy blood raider ships recently got a web range bonus & some nice minmatar ships also. There were a few ships with web effectiveness...

Hell. I even decided to use a 100mn lach for these "impossible cancer ridden ships flying about."

If you cant counter it in any way possible, its broken. If its the widely used meta, there's bound to be a ship change as there always has been with CCP.

Edit: Best quote by my friend, "If everyone's kiting, no one is."


Is the Lachesis fit like this?

[Lachesis, New Setup 1]
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

It goes 5.5 cold /8.1 hot with an empty pod and no links(How do you add links to EFT?).

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2015-05-02 06:21:30 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
(How do you add links to EFT?).
Make a link character and a link fit in EFT.

Have both your ship's and the link ship's windows open in EFT.

On your ship's window, right click on the lower right, 'squad commander' or something.

Select both your link character and your dishonorable link ship.

Done!

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#133 - 2015-05-02 23:27:08 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
crosi's spew should be disregarded because the only thing hes concerned with is his own entertainment. everything he says is self serving.

nerfing the scram bonus isnt that great of a nerf imo

base speed needs to be reduced.
and
capacitor needs to be nuked, or a mid needs to be nuked

also we need to dicuss the t3 dessies.

as i already said they are pretty much a joke as the 10mn coercer and 10mn thrasher were already incredibly strong. the t3 dessies are just even stronger versions of them.


Have you actually tried fitting a 10mn AB to a t3d in Mosaic? To do so you really have to gimp your fit.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#134 - 2015-05-02 23:43:37 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
wilgotna wrote:
crosi's spew should be disregarded because the only thing hes concerned with is his own entertainment. everything he says is self serving.

nerfing the scram bonus isnt that great of a nerf imo

base speed needs to be reduced.
and
capacitor needs to be nuked, or a mid needs to be nuked

also we need to dicuss the t3 dessies.

as i already said they are pretty much a joke as the 10mn coercer and 10mn thrasher were already incredibly strong. the t3 dessies are just even stronger versions of them.


Have you actually tried fitting a 10mn AB to a t3d in Mosaic? To do so you really have to gimp your fit.


Why would he acknowledge changes to the ships he supposedly has a problem with, when in reality its just an insecurity driven personal vendetta lol.
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#135 - 2015-05-03 06:31:40 UTC
Strange considering many top pvpers kill boards are full of 10mn svilpul losses
Crystalline Entity
Black Dragon PHP
#136 - 2015-05-03 11:00:57 UTC
Maulus........ Damps..........no kiters

just fyi, that's how we deal with them
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#137 - 2015-05-03 15:51:48 UTC
once again you are suggesting a blob to deal with a solo kiter
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#138 - 2015-05-03 19:53:22 UTC
wilgotna wrote:
once again you are suggesting a blob to deal with a solo kiter


Once again you assume incorrectly that in an MMO game there is such a thing called "solo" pvp.
wilgotna
Perkone
Caldari State
#139 - 2015-05-04 06:44:19 UTC
wow i guess i will remove the quake, prom, gonrin, bopoh, etc videos from my favorites list because solo doesnt exist

thanks for enlightening me Roll
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#140 - 2015-05-04 14:50:11 UTC
I think the point is that solo should be hard, why else would anyone have any respect for it otherwise?

Soloers asking CCP to balance the game towards their play style so as to make it easier for them is kinda missing the point entirely.